Immigration and Ireland - MEGATHREAD Mod Note Added 02/09/25

Viscount Aggro · 07-05-2026 10:31AM

There's a story in today's Indo...

2 men arrived at Kerry airport, no ID, not listed on the flight manifest. They are from Georgia.

vswr · 07-05-2026 10:41AM

New names are Vlad O'Dogherty, and Vasily Duffy. 1 week in Hilton, dole by next Wednesday, new 4 bed apartment by Thursday, fastrack to salt of the earth status and entry into Trinity

Isn't that right @creedp

bored65 · 07-05-2026 10:57AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124449923#Comment_124449923

There are flights to a regional airport from Georgia?

1800_Ladladlad · 07-05-2026 11:50AM

Within the past month…..

A Ex-Ukrainian war veteran sentenced to 12 years in prison for the horrific attempted murder his ex-partner in Kerry.

Hryhorii Sryotenko (51) a married man, came to Ireland in 2022 to escape the war leaving his wife there, met the victim Viktoriia Pavlenko and delvolped an intimate relationship here. Pavlenko and her daughter came to Ireland in 2022 also. Sryotenko developed an "unshakeable and incorrect belief" that Pavlenko was being unfaithful to him. The irony. He inflicted life-threatening and disfiguring injuries on Pavlenko, after being stabbed 15 times in the face, neck, shoulder & hand

Ukrainian man Mykola Kaznacheiev (56) who has “a significant history of violence" jailed for five and a half years for viscously assaulting his ex girlfriend in Dublin June 19, 2025.

He has two previous convictions in Ukraine, what for is unknown. Served a 7-year sentence in 1998 for one and a 14-year sentence in 2008 for the other. Spending a total 21 years in a Ukrainian prison. You can make your own mind what they could be for. He came from the Donetsk region in 2022 wether it was straight from prison or not, it was the same year of release after his 14 year sentence.

A Ukrainian healthcare worker was jailed for raiding a pensioners home as he lay dead in his rural Leitrim Home

Maksym Sharii (25) stole prized guitars along with alcohol, and a bank cards and continued using the card after the man’s death to withdraw his pension money. He has been jailed for 2 years and 6 months.

Just deport them……

_Kaiser_ · 07-05-2026 12:01PM

Indeed - I don't see why we are imprisoning people (at great expense from all I've read) when we have a shortage of spaces anyway rather than just deporting them upon conviction.

Ship them home and add them to a watchlist so they can't get back in later.

Floppybits · 07-05-2026 12:51PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124450151#Comment_124450151

It is quite obvious no vetting is being done. A man who has spent 20 years in prison and let's face it they can't have been for stealing apples and he gets let in. There is no way he should have gotten into the country to commit the crimes that he did and the government should be held responsible for this.

vswr · 07-05-2026 02:05PM

Sentance 4 years in Trinity

RoyalCelt · 07-05-2026 02:20PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124432605#Comment_124432605

What's the story with the Ukrainians getting such a special package over the other refugees?

Wouldn't be surprised if an NGO got a lawsuit about other refugees not being entitled to the same.

vswr · 07-05-2026 03:40PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124450524#Comment_124450524

Could be onto something there... International Travellers, ethnic minority status. They'll be moved into new estates over prefabs, salt of the earth squared status.

Marcos · 07-05-2026 04:51PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124449847#Comment_124449847

There is a reason for that kind of behaviour, not just groupthink. Bauer Media, who own Newstalk have been paid €382,074 by Comisiún na Méan under the News Reporting Scheme and €95,000 under the Digital Transformation Scheme. So that buys a lot of soft government interviews and stops any inconvenient reporting. That's the carrot, but there's also a stick, Comisiún na Méan also levies independent radio stations and has raised the levies by 69% over the last two years. Something the head of Independent Broadcasters Ireland called unsustainable. Labours Alan Kelly, currently chair of the Oireachtas Media Comittee, also said in the same article that the planned increase will lead to local radio stations going to the wall.

It looks much like Plato o Plomo to me. For those that don't know what Plato o Plomo is, it was a question that police officers in Colombia were asked by gangs. Do you want silver (bribes) or lead (bullets)?

Incidentally, it's also eye opening to see how much taxpayers money is doled out to all media outlets in an attempt to keep them onside.

sekiro · 07-05-2026 06:56PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124447793#Comment_124447793

Any decent journalist would be striving to find out exactly how much people are paying smugglers for these crossings.

Are these people arriving here already owing massive amounts of debt to criminal gangs?

The average monthly salary in Eritrea is around 340EUR so that's 4,080 annually. So how much must it cost to move a family of six from Eritrea all the way to the UK? I had read about these France to UK crossings alone costing 5,000EUR per person so you've potentially got a family with many multiple years worth of salary saved in their own country using all of that to end up in the UK working minimum wage jobs and living out of a hotel?

Something clearly isn't adding up in these situations. Where is the money coming from? Who is it going to? Do the new arrivals in Europe land here already owing relatively huge amounts of cash to criminals?

This is while we still aren't even close to answering questions about the positive and negative results of government policy on immigration and an explanation as to why exactly the negatives outweigh the positives.

mrslancaster · 07-05-2026 08:42PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124449917#Comment_124449917

“Thank your government…”

Not your government?

vswr · 07-05-2026 09:20PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124451443#Comment_124451443

It is.

_Kaiser_ · 07-05-2026 09:50PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124451558#Comment_124451558

You seem to be forgetting that the Irish electorate DID reject Lisbon, but were told to go vote again and give the right answer this time under the guise of them allegedly not understanding it properly the first time!

But democracy is not exactly a fundamental concern of the EU as we saw during the financial crisis (including Ireland being bounced into the bailout), the reaction to Brexit (how dare anyone want to leave! Idiots!), and of course the migration crisis (where until relatively recently anyone questioning it were portrayed as xenophobic racists!)

Similarly, and also until recently, anyone right here in Ireland were likewise made out to be troublemaking, far-right (or easily influenced) racist lowlifes. The problems being recognised and discussed now in the media and by Government are ones that have been raised by posters here on this thread (and its predecessor) for several years now!

Democracy it seems only counts when it fits the desired narrative!

vswr · 07-05-2026 11:07PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124451647#Comment_124451647

I haven't forgotten, and you seem to be taking this as selective democracy from my perspective. Democracy is democracy, the vote is done. I voted against as I read the small print and knew Ireland was being sold a pup with the opt out without referendum. The Government campaign made a point of not pointing out this fact. It was pitched with "We have an opt out, we won't automatically be added to the EU scheme".

McAtee stood in front of media in 2024 and said "Irish people voted for this"…. She is correct.

What is also correct is, they made a conscious decision not to make it clear that the Government can automatically decide to opt in.

Patrick2010 · 07-05-2026 11:28PM

MOD EDIT: Link dumping is not allowed, same with brazen racism contained within those links.

vswr · 08-05-2026 12:01AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124451887#Comment_124451887

Does this make you uncomfortable?

Geuze · 08-05-2026 12:37AM

Can a Celt enter Miss Africa?

vswr · 08-05-2026 07:36AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124451977#Comment_124451977

thinking of entering?

seenitall · 08-05-2026 07:53AM

I am confused. Isn’t the whole point of Rose of Tralee to celebrate an accomplished young woman of Irish extraction, that could come from anywhere in the world? At least that seemed to be the case when I last read or heard of it.

This would be kinda going in reverse of that purpose, wouldn’t it? To celebrate an accomplished young woman of any extraction, as long as she lives in Ireland? (Because would a woman of Somalian extraction be picked to compete if she’d grown up in New York?; but at this stage, who knows, it is getting confusing…….) Or have the rules changed?

_Kaiser_ · 08-05-2026 07:55AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124451977#Comment_124451977

I'm sure they could (actually I've no idea to be fair) but I can't imagine they'd get very far.

Not every country is as obsessed with importing American culture wars, identity/gender politics, and virtue-signaling nonsense as we seem to be.

I put it down to our incessant "need" for validation and approval from our supposed betters as a people (a hangover from the 800 years I reckon). It's why "everyone loves the Irish", why we're always the good boys and girls of Europe politically, why we're so keen to show our support for issues that have absolutely nothing to do with us like BLM (remember the "fun" that caused in Blanchardstown?), Palestine (by people who don't understand history), and Ukraine, as well as the obsession with Trump by our media - sure just look at the pages of this CA forum for evidence of it all!

While we argue over nonsense and problems elsewhere, it distracts focus from the problems we actually have in this country, leaving us exposed to being exploited by chancers, criminals, and anyone with a sad story who wants what we have. It also of course allows the political class to escape accountability for their actively making the situation worse year on year.

But as usual, the decision has been made for us elsewhere. Only because other countries in Europe are hardening their approaches to these issues and taking steps to reflect that changing mindset have we now decided it's "acceptable" to acknowledge and discuss problems that people here have been calling out for the last 5 years!

Only now has a bit of common sense entered the debate so it's not enough to dismiss or marginalise any concerns as "far-right" - which is a ridiculous accusation in itself, and always was, considering how progressive and liberal we are (excessively so as referenced above) as a nation.

We just have to do everything the hard way, and seem incapable of learning from the mistakes of others - indeed, we actively try to make it worse by copying those mistakes and adding an "Irish twist", for example our excessively generous support package for Ukrainians which drew them here like a magnet across an entire continent far better able to support them in the process!

I suppose it's inevitable though - first it was the British who told us what to do, then we managed to gain Independence and immediately handed over control to the Catholic Church who abused generations of people, and held back the social and economic development of the country for decades, and then when we finally threw that off what happened? We handed control to our "friends" in the EU who ensured we REALLY paid for the financial crisis and the protection of German bond holders, and then of course Merkel's immigration misadventure, which has changed the very fabric of our country probably irrevocably - the outcome of which we only need to look to the UK to see.

Give it another generation or two and we'll be no different. We already have seen the problems, the parallel cultures taking root, the divisions - it just wasn't "polite" to talk about it until recently and indeed actively suppressed by media reporting and online crusaders, including on this very forum.

The irony of course that it's like turkeys voting for Christmas! For if some of these cultures and religions ever gain real influence here, a lot of the social freedoms, tolerances and attitudes will be steadily rolled back (again as we're starting to see in the UK) until the country we grew up in is unrecognisable.

It's nice to have something to look forward to, isn't it?

vswr · 08-05-2026 08:13AM

She was born in Sligo lads... lets call a spade a spade here (I'm sure there's a pun in there somewhere)

It's because shes black and has a non Irish name everyone is getting annoyed. (One of the I'm not a racist, but.... arguments)

She still has the same rights to enter as every other Irish person.

seenitall · 08-05-2026 08:29AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124452135#Comment_124452135

I know that. My point was the rules seem to have changed along the way about the Irish extraction part of it, no? Because she might be Irish but she is certainly not of Irish extraction/heritage. And that extraction seemed to be the integral part of the contest since i have known of it, but then I did stop following it a good while ago.

All apologies if i am getting something badly wrong here, and sounding like a durrty waycist in the process. I hope i will be forgiven.

vswr · 08-05-2026 08:58AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124452153#Comment_124452153

Being born in Ireland makes you not of Irish extraction?

Boggles · 08-05-2026 09:00AM

Thread now has just descended into blatant racism.

But but but, housing!!!

walshb · 08-05-2026 09:26AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124452213#Comment_124452213

No. It's a lot more than just where you're born. Irish people are an ethnicity, a culture, a history, a type of person. Same way Chinese or Indian people are. A red haired baby born in say, China to red haired Irish parents (with generations of Irish lineage), doesn't make the baby Chinese, and not remotely close to Chinese.

Boggles · 08-05-2026 09:26AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124451647#Comment_124451647

You seem to be forgetting that the Irish electorate DID reject Lisbon, but were told to go vote again and give the right answer this time under the guise of them allegedly not understanding it properly the first time!

immediately handed over control to the Catholic Church who abused generations of people, and held back the social and economic development of the country for decades

Ironically one of the main stated reasons for no votes in Lisbon I, was they thought Europe would foist abortion and gay marriage onto them.

We handed control to our "friends" in the EU

No we didn't. The reason we have referendums is any major changes in EU policy has to be put to the Irish people. Ireland were the only country in the EU to have a vote on Lisbon.

It's a nice sound bite though and well suited to threads like this.

Boggles · 08-05-2026 09:36AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124452293#Comment_124452293

She was born in Ireland that makes her far more Irish than the vast majority of the Roses who have never set foot in the country.

Racists having an absolute meltdown over this calling for a boycott of the festival is peak crank.

walshb · 08-05-2026 09:44AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124452325#Comment_124452325

I wouldn't be calling for boycotts, but I wouldn't be throwing around the racist card to those who think this is just ludicrous. I actually thought it was a wind up when I first heard it.

seenitall · 08-05-2026 09:46AM

Forget it, not worth it. :)

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