Greta Thunberg (Continued...)

So the standard that you're setting for environmental campaigners is that they have to walk everywhere? Or just stay at home?

I live in Germany in North Rhine Westphalia. Does believing in climate change mean that I can't get the train for any personal trips?

I don't drive. I never have. I get public transport everywhere. If I hop on a tram to go to the other side of the city, am I a hypocrite? If I hop on a train to go to Amsterdam for a day trip, am I a hypocrite? I went to Berlin for a weekend trip recently, am I a bad person? Do I deserve to be chastised?

Are you actually saying that people who believe in climate change have to stay at home or walk everywhere?

You seem to think that anyone who believes in climate change has to live like an old time hermit. Live in a cave, never go anywhere and make clothes out of tree bark.

Climate action is about reducing our impact on the climate. It's not about causing suffering. I'm in favour of air travel, but I think that most people should restrict how much they do it. There are people who are on every ryanair sale and are travelling multiple times a year. Then there are people who travel once a year to visit family. And because Ireland is an island, it's always going to be harder to avoid air travel.

I have a coworker who travels from Frankfurt to visit the office every two weeks by plane. It doesn't save him any time. The train is just as fast. But he doesn't like the train. He could even drive and have a lower carbon footprint. That's the kind of stuff we need to stop.

People have been aware of climate change for decades, it was being thought in schools more than thirty years ago. Kids were watching Captain Planet in the early 90’s.

If we are all to be green, we need to have a rethink from the top down. Maybe a quota or tax put on the amount of plane journeys someone can take every year. And less commuting to work by plane. For example , Patrick Kielty flies in to Dublin every week from London for the Late Late and goes back again. Think of the carbon footprint example he is setting.

Interesting you mention that. The first commuter train in the whole wide world was the Dublin and Kingstown Railway (D&KR), which began service in 1834 and is still in operation today. How we have slipped in the world when you look at the infrastructure in Japan, China etc now.  

Do-gooders like Greta are doing nothing for the west / western Europe.

she uses public transport and campaigns for it's expansion instead of using cars.

When she was flying back from her cruise in the med some months ago, she was put sitting near the bathroom in a seat that wouldn't recline. I'd have loved to see the expression on her face when she heard a pointed message from the pilot: “We want to thank our security forces and the IDF for protecting and defending our homeland and we want to wish for the swift return of all hostages"

The announcement was made in English so Thunberg could understand it.

If she cared enough about the environment, she would not have put herself in a position where others would be paying for her flight somewhere.

She probably uses an iphone made in China, a country which generates much more electricity from coal than the United States generates from all sources combined. Wonder how long she would last if she protested in China, a country that has opened hundreds of NEW coal power stations in the past few years? I bet a lot of items in her house or apartment or wherever she lives are made in China.

Is she heading to Sudan? No, not enough attention from the right on crowd.

The Sudan thread which you haven't posted in for months and where you barely spoke about Sudan anyway and just kept mentioning Palestine/Israel and bringing up the same whataboutery you are here?

It’s just not popular with the luvies, no catchy phrases to parrot or watermelon symbols to make badges from

Israel Palestine has been going on for decades. The Palestinians launched a government backed cross boarder attack targeting civilians. They are feeling the consequences and still haven’t surrendered. They made their bed.

Ye it seems like you're really concerned about the situation.