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Greta Thunberg (Continued...)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,215 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    So the standard that you're setting for environmental campaigners is that they have to walk everywhere? Or just stay at home?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,948 ✭✭✭Potatoeman


    You can do whatever you want but to say you support the green movement while going on foreign holidays is ridiculous and needs to be called out. The same people support Ireland reducing its cattle herd as it does impact them directly. They are complete hypocrites.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,215 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    I live in Germany in North Rhine Westphalia. Does believing in climate change mean that I can't get the train for any personal trips?

    I don't drive. I never have. I get public transport everywhere. If I hop on a tram to go to the other side of the city, am I a hypocrite? If I hop on a train to go to Amsterdam for a day trip, am I a hypocrite? I went to Berlin for a weekend trip recently, am I a bad person? Do I deserve to be chastised?

    Are you actually saying that people who believe in climate change have to stay at home or walk everywhere?

    You seem to think that anyone who believes in climate change has to live like an old time hermit. Live in a cave, never go anywhere and make clothes out of tree bark.

    Climate action is about reducing our impact on the climate. It's not about causing suffering. I'm in favour of air travel, but I think that most people should restrict how much they do it. There are people who are on every ryanair sale and are travelling multiple times a year. Then there are people who travel once a year to visit family. And because Ireland is an island, it's always going to be harder to avoid air travel.

    I have a coworker who travels from Frankfurt to visit the office every two weeks by plane. It doesn't save him any time. The train is just as fast. But he doesn't like the train. He could even drive and have a lower carbon footprint. That's the kind of stuff we need to stop.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,052 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    But why are people aware of the issue? Could it be because of protestors like her?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,117 ✭✭✭✭John_Rambo


    Another reason to hate, a wealthy, successful young woman who earns more than your average middle aged man. She lives in a capitalist society and has every right to make a living. She earns through books, royalties, awards, and public speaking, most of which she donates. She doesn’t take money for her activism.

    Hard work works. Deal with it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,968 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    The fascinating part is the same poster will fawn over the likes of Trump who is very much so a grifter...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,948 ✭✭✭Potatoeman


    People have been aware of climate change for decades, it was being thought in schools more than thirty years ago. Kids were watching Captain Planet in the early 90’s.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,948 ✭✭✭Potatoeman


    That’s better than most. My point being there are far too many traveling and claiming to be environmental. Personal choice is the way to get people on board with a cause like environmentalism not green taxes and mass disruption protests. Those make people reject the cause completely.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,117 ✭✭✭✭John_Rambo


    But they’re not rejecting the cause at all. You are… but look at you and your posts, you've been caught spreading false information about Greta!

    Most modern, rational people now accept that we’re harming the planet and are already changing behaviour. Even companies like Airbus are testing open fan engines to cut emissions. On top of that, the right to protest is written into, or strongly protected by, most democratic constitutions and human rights frameworks. Greta Thunberg has been a huge influence in driving that shift. By any reasonable measure, she has been successful.

    At this stage, it must be over 100 posts about her from you alone?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,948 ✭✭✭Potatoeman


    And here you are white knighting for her Rambo. Most of my posts are replies to people, welcome to an internet forum.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,117 ✭✭✭✭John_Rambo


    I admire her. She is an impressive person who has achieved a huge amount in a very short space of time.

    What I genuinely find fascinating is the obsession people like you have with her. Countless posts, watching her every move.

    You resurrected this two month old thread yourself not to reply to anyone but purely to rage about a harmless protest that affected nobody and successfully raised awareness of her cause. The bile aimed at a young, successful woman says far more about you than it does about Greta Thunberg. Your posts are, quite literally, the perfect example of a miserable keyboard warrior, nothing good to say, spreading false info and raging from behind your screen.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,948 ✭✭✭Potatoeman


    So no one is allowed to criticise saint Greta. Take a seat Rambo, the white knighting is getting old.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,117 ✭✭✭✭John_Rambo


    Who told you that? Of course you can spend hours obsessing over and criticising anyone, and you clearly do!
    Just expect to be pulled up when you get things wrong, repeat inaccuracies, or spread falsehoods.

    If pointing your spoofs out is labelled “white knighting”, so be it. I will gladly take that over raging at a young woman for daring to be effective.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,489 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    You have the right to keep having digs at her (based on your subjective opinion) but to respond to those posts is white knighting?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,556 ✭✭✭Francis McM


    If we are all to be green, we need to have a rethink from the top down. Maybe a quota or tax put on the amount of plane journeys someone can take every year. And less commuting to work by plane. For example , Patrick Kielty flies in to Dublin every week from London for the Late Late and goes back again. Think of the carbon footprint example he is setting.



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