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Dairy Chitchat 4, an udder new thread.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,183 ✭✭✭greenfield21


    Farm Theorys next video is going to tell us his cost of production and how he is going to save money. Quite interesting saying he is actually going to have to do milking now to save some money. Three times a week.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 987 ✭✭✭daiymann 5


    That lads a clown he done a full video on how a diet feeder was a waste of money.He then buys one this year.He spent half a million euro on a parlour to milk i think 150 cows muppet if ever there was one.

    Post edited by daiymann 5 on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,532 ✭✭✭awaywithyou


    IIn Fairness none of us know the full story think Stan has said his farm has to support 3 households… I'd be slow to pass comment til I know the full story



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,317 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Farming is as easy or hard as you make it ,wouldn't begrudge anyone spending money on good milking facilties.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,089 ✭✭✭visatorro


    Like the opportunity to double cow numbers, not that many needed do it but loads did. You can milk alot of cows off farm and still be organised at home. If the right opportunity came up id go back to work. Wouldn't say stan is working minimum wage. Money in the account that's all that matters



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,089 ✭✭✭visatorro


    On a different note farm theory was talking about his double up parlour. Maybe im wrong but he's the only person I heard saying that a double up was better than a swing over parlour? I know people who doubled up but had nowhere else to go or done on a budget. Also with 40 units surely a 50 point rotary would be more efficient and only need one milker? Also doesn't like robots..maybe he's right!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 987 ✭✭✭daiymann 5


    Hes a clown hasnt a clue cuckoo land lad he was canvassing to get on the board of his co op dont know if he got on but hes the type of lad who are on boards and comittees



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,808 ✭✭✭memorystick


    I’m not a dairy farmer but was talking to a few beef and tillage men earlier today. Zero sympathy for some dairy farmers. Couldn’t get enough of dear conacre while driving over the man with a few bullocks. The amount of greed shown by a few in my area is shocking. You’d have to wonder to what’s going on in some places.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 987 ✭✭✭daiymann 5


    In all fairness it looks like greed but most are just trying to make a living on farm its almost impossible to milk cows and have off farm work most beef sheep lads have off farm work very well paid and there renting land isnt that greedy



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 4,705 Mod ✭✭✭✭Siamsa Sessions


    Any tips on how to stop first-calvers from turning around in the cubicle and lying facing out the way?

    The same few were at it as heifers last year as well.

    They walk up into the bed, then do a 180-degree turn before lying down. And when they stand up then, they sh*t at the top of the bed.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,975 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    there’s vultures like that in every parish who don’t care who they walk over ….thankfully in lots of cases around here stories of big money been tendered for plots of land by such lads but they ain’t getting it …often going to underbidders bidding quite a bit less



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,213 ✭✭✭straight


    I think you call that having a chip on your shoulder or just downright begrudgery. I'm a dairy farmer and I never rented an acre in my life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 261 ✭✭yewdairy


    If you have land taken on conarce you are at the mercy of the market. Land owners are going to want the most they can for the land they own. If the lad with a few bullocks isn't fit to paid the current land rent price, it's hardly the dairy farmers fault.

    When lads are selling cattle in the mart they don't tell the auctioneer to stop if they go into a mental price.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,211 ✭✭✭mr.stonewall


    Could you move the top rail nearer the end of step up. If they are the cubicles that are bolted and clamped to the rail could be worth tighten up the space between the cubicles



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,766 ✭✭✭weatherbyfoxer


    As a ball park,how many bales of silage would you want in the yard for 70 cows?..grazing ground is light sandy soils so early out late in but burns up in the summer if we get much heat.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,900 ✭✭✭mf240


    I'd say they will still give it next year. Price of calves and cull cows will bridge some of the gap. If dero goes they could give more to get it. Might not make sense but if they pay for it they can have it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,900 ✭✭✭mf240




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,553 ✭✭✭Grueller


    My ground is similar Weatherby. I always budget 10 bales per cow and that covers me for Summer feeding and all in droughts. I usually have surplus silage left but never more than a bale per cow really.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,089 ✭✭✭visatorro


    I think the old way was a tonne/cow/month over the winter. My bales seem to be anything from 800 to 1000kg. If your prone to drought you'd never have enough stuff in the yard!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,317 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Better looking at it than looking for it



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,808 ✭✭✭memorystick


    I think you are wrong about me. I’ve a very good job that goes well with farming and my life balance. I’m a lot of things but a begrudger isn’t one of them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,454 ✭✭✭Castlekeeper


    If they can they be put in a section on their own or with the incalf heifers, tie a pallet to one side of each cubicle to narrow it a bit.

    “We are all capable of believing things which we know to be untrue, and then, when we are finally proved wrong, impudently twisting the facts so as to show that we were right. Intellectually, it is possible to carry on this process for an indefinite time: the only check on it is that sooner or later a false belief bumps up against solid reality.” George Orwell.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 120 ✭✭Downtown123


    What we are seeing is a return of quota times. Land is not valued by its production capability, it’s measured by its ability to support production. If getting 10 acres of ground allows a dairy farmer keep 10 cows extra and the profit on those is €1k per cow (good long term average figure) then they’re fully entitled to pay what they see fit.

    The grass/crop grown off it is just a bonus.

    If the beef/tillage man can’t generate a profit of €1k per acre then that’s tough spit with a h.

    Like it or lump it beef or tillage farming pays well on a per hour of necessary work basis. Just there’s not enough necessary work in it to justify a living



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,324 ✭✭✭alps


    Management and board would do all in their powers to keep a lad like this from getting on because he would challenge them. He wouldn't have to be right, but management would have to justify and validate all their proposals....so no…he's not the type of lad that gets on boards.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,324 ✭✭✭alps


    In the main cost savings come from reduction in repairs and maintainance, developments and stock building. Typically carried out while funds were flush, there really are our only way of buffering price drops and add to tax efficiencies.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,213 ✭✭✭straight


    I didn't say anything about you. You were talking about guys with no sympathy for dairy farmers and I was talking about the same people. Simples.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,438 ✭✭✭jaymla627


    You cant really put off repairs on a dairy farm, if a vaccum pump/milk pump water heater etc blow up, you have to replace them...

    Had a sore month this august re the above had to install a new water heater, 1500 euro in repairs to well, descaler unit also, and to top it off, 1400 euro for repairs to tractor, all in nearly 6k that i hadnt budgeted on...

    Easily 10k a year needed here, for stuff like the above of essential repairs every year



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,077 ✭✭✭green daries


    To be honest I don't recall you ever have came across as such on here anyway



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,324 ✭✭✭alps


    You can put off repairs to fencing, roadways, buildings. You will have the emergency stuff, but I bet most people can halve the 10 year average spend by doing just the necessary. They dont need to be left undone. Milk price will rise again and there must have been a cushion in yhe likes of this year to get outstanding issues up to date.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,808 ✭✭✭older by the day


    If you are used of doing things yourself, and have only handy numbers, poor milk price ain't too bad, its probably the only advantage of being a one man band.

    Problem is now that the cost of living in ireland is gone out of control. To tax and insure cars and tractors and farm. Electricity and fuel, education and taxation. Accounting and advisory, transport and trying to keep the fridge and cupboard full, you still need a good income.

    To be honest I don't know how a family with a mortgage and car loans and childcare are keeping going? Or where there is long term illness in a home

    If this is what living in one of the richest countries in the world is like, I'd hate to see what it's like in one of the shiitholes.

    I see mich martin is in Brazil this week promising to help with the 100 billion dollars to plant trees in south America



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