Manchester United Thread 25/26 - Teamtalk/Transfers/Gossip Mod Note in OP 26.09.24

Only the top 2 teams have scored more, only the bottom 4 have conceded more.

One clean sheet and 18 goals conceded in 11 games in just not good enough to push for a European place; Put into context Arsenal have conceded 5 including 2 today. The midfield needs reinforcements in January; Casemiro can only get through 70 mins once a week, Ugarte not good enough and Mainoo not getting a look in.

But no doubt we are improving and going the right way. It's going to be a long road but finally we can se progress.

The only proven premier league striker getting any volume of goals at the moment is Haaland and he won’t be signing.

Next to him is Danny Welbeck and we have been down that road.

Obviously Watkins was the proven one that a lot wanted at the club but he has not produced anything this season.

Other strikers I can think of such as Salah, Isak, Gykores have been rubbish this season too as is reflected in their numbers.

Sesko was late to the party and has limited game time but he definitely has all the attributes of a top striker if patience is shown with him.

I’ve been really shocked at his lack of intensity in everything he does. Given his obvious athleticism I was expecting a violence to his movement. Quick powerful runs. Defenders nightmare.

I was largely expecting him to look a bit clumsy when he actually had the ball. Haaland can look clumsy at times, but he has the above.

Sesko just sort of meanders around like a young Peter Crouch with a considerably worse first touch. Hopefully a confidence thing. The chance yesterday was just a complete lack of intensity and intentionality. Halaand gets a shot in there 100% of the time and scores 75%+.

We definitely could have signed Harry Kane if we went all out for him. We didn’t want to deal with Levy and thought Hojlund was the smarter signing.

It’s a decision that set us back a 5+ years at a minimum. Truly believe Harry Kane could drag this team into top 4 and potentially a title fight (especially if subsequent Sesko money was spent on CM and full back).

We were never signing him. It was all paper hype, there was never any sign that kane wanted to sign for another English club. Dreamland stuff.

708 mins he has played for the club and some have wrote him off. Same script as usual will follow

a) does not improve and the told you so crew appear

b) improves massively and your told sure paid 75m for him why shouldn't he be good

I know everyone has an opinion but I feel United fans write off players so much quicker than other teams

That game really annoyed me. They were there for the taking but I thought we were too passive. Ugarte is clearly not good enough. Team falls to pieces whenever Casemiro is not there. We are really struggling to play ball in the middle whilst recycling possession and are very reliant on Mbuemo and Cunha to beat the press.

I hope we can go and get someone in Jan who can do a job for us in the middle of the park. I know Baleba has been poor for the most part this season (played well for 2 or 3 games at one point) but I'd be testing the waters there in Jan and see if Brighton are open to letting him go with the fear that his value may fall even further in the second half of the season. If not, maybe go for a stop gap but we need some legs in there.

Actually thought Sesko played well when he came on in general but yes the chance was disappointing. Mount played well too I thought.

Happy with where the team is going but just want to see us be a bit more positive away from home.

But you said there was never any sign that Kane wanted to sign for another English club. That was your rationale for saying the idea was 'dreamland'.

It's not true.

Now saying that there has being times were the club give to much time to players but from a fans side some players get wrote off as early as possible but again everyone has an opinion and that’s why freedom of speech is great.

We played decently ok up until the goal then sat back and fairly nullified spurs till half time, but they dominated us fairly hard second half both in and out of possession until the manager made changes including ugarte coming on, like I'm not saying ugarte didn't make mistakes yesterday but our most control of the game came from the time Amad moved back until spurs scored I don't see how saying we fell apart when he came on has any basis in reality, we actually kept possession better and won it back better when he was on the pitch.

Don't mean to have a go or even defend ugarte but I've seen this narrative a few times online and it's just not what happened

Just watched back our first goal we conceeded yesterday winning 1-0 83rd minute, Bruno plays the ball to mount and runs forward for a 1-2 mount plays the ball forward instead but gives it away one pass and spurs are in at our defense, ugarte is back but has two men to cover, this is again an issue with Bruno in midfield not an ugarte issue on the goal, he has to cover two men, ball goes to the wing amad doesn't do much to stop the cross and a goal is scored.

Up until last May I was still getting overwhelming negative response to saying Hojlund and Ugarte were not good enough for United. I think the fanbase are incredibly patient with new signings. Zirzkee was the only one I ever saw that people really turned on quickly.