Manchester United Thread 25/26 - Teamtalk/Transfers/Gossip Mod Note in OP 26.09.24

Any timeline for Licha's return? Things could really start taking shape when he gets back

Thomas Frank has a serious William Defoe look about him.

I'd never seen Ugarte play before he came here beyond a few YouTube highlights which - in hindsight - suspiciously omitted pretty much any clips from his time at PSG and were all highlights from his Sporting days.

But unless there's been a sudden and inexplicable decline in his technical ability, it's genuine scouting malpractice that someone in that line of work could watch him play regularly and recommend him as a signing.

I think from a pure footballing ability point of view, he's been the worst transfer we've made in recent years.

There's just nothing there. It's not that we're playing him in the wrong position, it's not that he doesn't have the supporting cast he needs around him, it's not that the system doesn't suit him.... He's just genuinely really, really bad at football.

I think De Ligt has a bit of a David de Gea vibe going on. He has a few quality moments in a game that leaves a good impression but there's just something about him that I feel isn't the real deal.

I've been very critical of Dorgu but today thought he put in a good performance. He's good for these type of tough away games. And let's be honest every away game is tough for us.

Ugartes hopelessness is why I'm baffled by the urge to bin Casemiro. Ideally we can sign a new starter and drop Case (provided he takes a large wage drop) to Ugarte's role.

The drop off from Case to Ugarte is unbelieveable. And signing a player who knows they are arriving strictly as a back up can be tricky.

That would be my thought on it.

When in that position there is exactly one direction the defender is going to be coming from, and the top "natural" strikers are instinctively protecting the ball against it before they get their shot off.

Sesko didn't think he had left anyone for dust because he wasn't thinking of the defenders at all, he didn't really have close control of the ball, his only touch was to knock the ball forward and to me it very much looks like all his thought is on the shot he might eventually decide to take.

Its not the end of the world, strikers have wasted those chances before, but he absolutely should be scoring no matter what defenders are on the field.

Hardly have a cheap buy back for Garner?

Ah yeah I agree with that but I’m just acknowledging an excellent bit of defending.

There’s absolutely no doubt that Sesko is struggling to get up to speed with the premiership and has to realise he doesn’t have the time on the ball he had in Germany.

He has actually struggled with the physicality of this league up to now too. Still early days though so wouldn’t write him off just yet.

Think we were better when maz went off for sure Amad goal aside did a better job closing and defending and with ball progression, was a real weird game.

We were been dominated for a long time until we made the subs, sesko should have done better at times, but we started to control the game ourselves when we made the subs and actually pressed better and got on the ball better.

Then the goal Amad can do better but even still it's a dodgy deflection and it goes it and the 2nd is aong ranger going wide that richy gets a head on to deflect it in perfectly so a huge slice of luck on both.

I will say I didn't pay enough attention to ugarte to ser how he played but I do think we played better after the subs then before

Collyer > Ugarte

Agreed

I was a big defender if ugarte, but I would 100% back selling him and giving casemiro a new short term contract (on way reduced terms).

We need to replace both, but I'd prioritise ugarte cause I'd back casemiro to be more useful as a rotation.

Yes, and that he visibly tires after 60 minutes, with only one game per week. He won't take a significant wage cut either - he can go to Saudi league and make top tier wages there, or if he isn't motivated by money head home to Brazil and finish off his career there. Good player, but not the future. Extending his contract for 2 or three years will just make it harder to sign the 2 or 3 central midfielders we need.

Nice camel toe