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Ulster Team Talk Thread IV... Go On My Henderson...

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,418 ✭✭✭realhorrorshow


    Poor Mike Lowry.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,418 ✭✭✭realhorrorshow


    Does a quick throw have to be straight if the lineout isn't set?!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 242 ✭✭Paddy_Mag


    If they are going to check for being short of the line then what about the arm around the neck



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭Locke_Lamora


    That could end up being a really important conversion



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 556 ✭✭✭darkened_scrum


    I actually feel for Whitehouse here, it's been a tough game to ref and he's gotten most of the calls right. He needs to put one or two of these Sharks in the bin.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,501 ✭✭✭leakyboots


    That's a great win, congrats Ulster



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 511 ✭✭✭exiledawaynothere


    well done Ulster. That’s a big win.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 89 ✭✭Joma4good


    Brilliant Ulster performance to the very end. So many good performances but Sheridan and McCann never taking a backward step was great to see.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,501 ✭✭✭leakyboots


    Always liked the look of McCann, great player



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,828 ✭✭✭Tigerandahalf


    Love watching this Ulster backline. If they can get that scrum right they can match anyone. Probably still a question about whether mentally they can pull a win in a tight contest against a top team but they look to be on the up and the players are really pulling together.

    The Sharks are a shambles, culture of the players seems to be rotten. They should boot a few of those players out. Am has fallen some amount, a sub in the 75th minute. Was the best 13 in the world a couple of years ago.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 196 ✭✭Bart97


    It shows how much these Sharks players punch above their weight when they play for SA



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 26,507 ✭✭✭✭phog


    That's a super win for Ulster, play like that every match snc they'll take a scalps.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,148 ✭✭✭Ardillaun


    What a player Kok is. South Africa seem to constantly produce exciting attacking wingers off their assembly line.

    Post edited by Ardillaun on

    Do I contradict myself?
    Very well then I contradict myself,
    (I am large, I contain multitudes.)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,114 ✭✭✭Paul Smeenus


    So. Enjoyed that.

    To win with a scrum being so thoroughly monstered is no mean feat. The scrum is a cause for concern generally, albeit they won't come up against a better front row than that. (It's better, in fact, than quite a few international front rows.)

    I was starting to get a sinking feeling in the first quarter of the second half. We've been here before - running up great scores and then being wound back in and ground down. In fact, it was the Sharks we were 19-0 up against last season, only to lose 19-22. But it didn't happen. The scrum was taking its toll, but we still managed some great play to keep scoring. (Shout out to Tom Stewart, who played the whole 80 mins, transferring to back row after Reffell went off, and still had the juice to score that try. And he started that transition by passing the ball to Hume).

    After a quieter previous season for McCann and particularly Sheridan, they look to have come roaring back. Sheridan is an absolute defensive menace against mauls.

    Doak has gotten back to the promise he showed when he first burst through. Cooney was injured and so Doak knew the position was his when he got his first caps. I don't know if it's the run of games or not having Cooney breathing down his neck that has seen him improve again. But he is playing very well.

    I can see why we kept on Sam Cream, to be honest. Hasn't let us down. Hell not have to worry about an Ireland call-up, but I could see him becoming quite dependable.

    I am worried now about the Lions. I'll be gutted if we bonus point beat the Bulls and the Sharks only to lose to them.

    But we won't have Hendo, Timoney, Gusty or Reffell in the pack. Do we even have enough back rows to line out?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,114 ✭✭✭Paul Smeenus


    Just checked the touring squad.

    For 7 positions (two second rows, three back row, two back ups on the bench), we have David McCann, Matthew Dalton, Harry Sheridan, Joe Hopes and… that's it.

    Even if we started Tom Stewart in the back row (far from ideal), we're still two players short.

    Lorcan McLoughlin is apparently injured.

    So are we calling up some permutation of Rea, Bryn Ward, James McKillop, Charlie Irvine? I know there'd been talk of Bryn getting his first cap last season but for injury.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,114 ✭✭✭Paul Smeenus


    I could see Kok giving openside a lash.

    NB - I mean that he'd absolutely give it a go, not that Richie would pick him there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,142 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    What's wrong with Augustus?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,114 ✭✭✭Paul Smeenus


    Went off injured.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,114 ✭✭✭Paul Smeenus


    Reffell out for "a number of weeks", Gusty being monitored but unlikely to make it this weekend, Ireland players have gone to camp and Ben Carson, Marcus Rea, Bryn Ward and Charlie Irvine called up.

    I'd go McCann at eight, Ward at seven, Marcus Rea on the bench.

    Hopes apparently has a fair bit of experience in the back row and is a modern second row/back row hybrid, and Sheridan has played at six for us before. So one of them completing the back row.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,782 ✭✭✭FtD v2


    Excited to see what Bryn Ward can do at the next level - he was excellent at U20s.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,418 ✭✭✭realhorrorshow


    Charlie Irvine is an interesting prospect too IMO.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,114 ✭✭✭Paul Smeenus


    Yeah - to be honest, from the limited amount I'd seen, I'd have had him ahead of Hopes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 921 ✭✭✭Zeugnis


    Delighted to see the performance your boys put in at the weekend, very tidy as well as physical. Now go and do the Lions.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,142 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    Our depth will be tested this week without Stockdale, McCloskey, Timoney and Henderson as well as the injured players and this is where I think we might struggle a bit. We'll cope in the backs with Ward, Baloucoune and Postlethwaite all likely to come in, but I'd be concerned about the second row and back row. I'd love to see Bryn Ward get some sort of run.

    While I don't like the fact we don't play again for a month after Saturday, it may not be the worst thing in the world for us given how light our depth is. But this will be the sort of week where we start to build depth by playing the likes of Hopes and Ward Jnr, maybe Irvine as well.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,782 ✭✭✭FtD v2


    Mapimpi banned for 5 weeks for the hit on Mike Lowry from Saturday's game.

    It's a 6 week entry point but they took off a week for 'good conduct' and 'accepting committing an act of foul play', and despite ticking that he had an aggravatory factor, being a repeat offender, he got off with 5 weeks.

    It still irritates me to no end that good conduct at the hearing - something that should be a base level expectation, in this instance is deemed more pertinent than the fact he was a repeat offender in deciding the ultimate sanction.



  • Subscribers, Paid Member Posts: 44,154 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    id love to know the last time a pro rugby player had time added on instead of reduced at one of these hearings?

    i simply cannot recall it ever happening.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,782 ✭✭✭FtD v2


    Same - equally I'd like to see how often the good conduct mitigation box isn't ticked, feels like it's a given in these things.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,254 ✭✭✭✭aloooof


    I have only one vague memory of this happening (but cannot for the life of me remember who), where an extra week was added after an unsuccessful appeal.

    But even then, it was in the circumstances where the club / player obviously still felt it worth it, as a successful appeal would've had the player back in time for a Champions Cup game; something along those lines. (You'd imagine clubs have all these variables gamed out before hand).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,782 ✭✭✭FtD v2


    Something else that is utterly disgraceful I've just noticed about the Mapimpi ban - where they've listed out the games he is to be suspended for, he misses the Scarlets game this weekend, and then the next four games are South Africa's games against Japan, France, Italy and Ireland, when he wasn't even named in the South Africa squad (announced long before his red v Ulster).

    Discipline in rugby has become an utter joke.



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  • Subscribers, Paid Member Posts: 44,154 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    ah additions after an unsuccessful appeal are slightly different. There is nearly an expectation that an appeal will lengthen the sanction (otherwise everything would be apealed). There have been a good few examples of world rugby appealing bans themselves and getting them extended.

    im talking about a hearing where there is an entry point sanction rcommednation, no mitigation, agrivation factors, and thus the ban is longer then the enrty point recommendation. i dont ever recall it happeneing.

    even thomas lavanini had a week reduced from his 6 week ban for his hit on healy in 2021, which was his 4th professional red card.



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