Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

So would a mass-going catholic who doesn’t call down fire and brimstone on their contraceptive-using neighbours be by definition a hypocrite in your view then?

Or is it only anyone who speaks in public about their beliefs who you think is problematic?

What next - have all practicing catholics thrown out of mainstream political parties?

I didn’t used to believe religious people who claimed that many on the left were just as intolerant as people in John Charles McQuaid’s time but it turns out they were right.

Just to clarify, the bail out of Paul Pelosi's attacker remark was not primarily to do with some criticism of the justice system. He specified that the patriot should bail him out so they could ask him some questions. This was him pushing a conspiracy theory that the attacker was Pelosi's gay lover…. You guys are incredibly desperate to rewrite Kirk's motivations. Within the first minute he makes that implication.

As an Epstein file distraction, this has been quite the windfall for Trump, even here, on our little site in Ireland we have spent the last few days in the Trump thread talking pretty much exclusively about Charlie Kirk.

I mean, I feel for his family, but when your talking about gun deaths in the US, he really is just another statistic, there's approximately 125 people a day dying of gun deaths in the US, why aren't we spending days talking about them?

Why isn't the Whitehouse flag flying at half mast for those victims?

The conversation around Trump needs to be able to avoid crashing into distractions like this.

The irony of your posts.

You say this killing was an attack on free speech…a few posts later you say that an opinion you don’t like is “typical far left hate speech”.

Maybe take a break?

Well yes, I believe that religion is the cause of most of the intolerance, hate, division and death in the world and that this has been proven over thousands of years. I can go into detail if you would like?

So do I, but that's hardly the question. Unless you're saying anyone who gets married in a church should be considered unelectable in any party except a religious one?

In fairness I highlighted yesterday that Trump was leveraging this murder for his own end- the flags flying at half mast being the first obvious step in this process- and likely will be using this murder to stir hate against democrats - he hasn’t done this when some unknown black person going about their lawful business is shot dead - so talking about this is very important and it’s not a distraction - this murder was wrong- but how Trump is going to capitalise on this murder is simply disgusting

He is totally fine. He just fell asleep. During the 9/11 memorial. Imagine the uproar if any post 9/11 President caught a few zzzz during that memorial in particular.