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Gas Pipe Explosion near IFSC

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,231 ✭✭✭rednik


    The three trams at the Point will be moved soon.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,780 ✭✭✭10-10-20


    Do we know how, did ARUP sign-off on using the bridge or will they be moved via low-loader?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74,583 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    My office (at that time) is in the second photo there. Luas was basically my personal chauffeur service back then; there was so little open down there - just Spar and a tiny handful of offices, then eventually the cinema had a coffee shop.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,231 ✭✭✭rednik




  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 54,602 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    apart from the other answer that there was nothing there before the luas; at the risk of providing a trite answer, often the answer would be 'before something provided access, people of limited mobility simply didn't access it'.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,927 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    The amount of development in the docklands over the last decade is incredible. There's was literally nothing there not that long ago.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,927 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    Exactly.

    People seem to completely oblivious to other peoples.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,382 ✭✭✭✭Dial Hard


    I lived in the IFSC in 2004. The apartments were all there, as was the Harbourmaster pub and the Excise bar. There's been plenty of development since then, obviously, but to say "there was literally nothing there not that long ago" is patently untrue.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74,583 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    There was very, very little beyond the Spencer Dock apartments. A few houses, an exceptionally rough pub, the Point, the Liffey Trust studios (the original ones that burnt down) and whatever businesses were in the old Lever factory at Castleforbes. And a derelict rail container yard, railway station, railway hotel etc.

    When you get to the distances where you'd definitely want to take some other form of transport than walking if it existed, you were in to nothingness.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,927 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    You're saying the photos are wrong.

    The Harbour Master pub is 2 mins walk from Connolly why would you need a Luas extension for that. Same with the IFSC

    It's the other end where Anglo HQ is was. It's unrecognizable now. Even the apartments around mayor square were empty for many years.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,382 ✭✭✭✭Dial Hard


    Well yeah. Your first photo was from the 80s, which far predates any of the development of the area. Half of Dublin was derelict at that stage, sure. Your second photo is from 2016 and you can clearly see the Samuel Beckett Bridge, Convention Centre, PWC offices and loads more are already in place.

    I'm not saying there hasn't been a tonne of infill development from the Point back to the original IFSC in more recent years, but people are claiming the whole area from Connolly up basically didn't exist until about 10 years ago, when that simply isn't the case.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,927 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    The comment was did people not walk before the Luas extension. No dates were mentioned. So referring to any time before the Luas extension is fair game.

    2016 is after the Luas extension. The point of that is to show those the new development, not the lack of it.

    Even after they were built lots of those apartments and office blocks were empty. Many of the new office blocks are still empty. As the other thread calls it...a ghost town. Now with all the apartments filling out and Bank of Ireland and lately Dunnes opening the footfall is massive. Standing room only on that Luas at peak now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74,583 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    The "loads more" were extensively empty in 2016 - I was there, wandering around the wasteland of broken Boomtime dreams.

    I think the Saudi embassy might have moved in to that white office block on Sheriff Street by then, but it was empty for years. The red building beside it is a Potemkin building to hide a major ESB substation and the yellowish one is apartments that were mostly empty. Central Bank is still under construction.

    The apartment blocks closer to and on Castleforbes were extensively empty until Cluid came in. The white office building at the corner of Castleforbes and Mayor Streets was empty at the front, the rear bit had some radio stations in it and I believe some other empty floors.

    The point that the volume of people using the Luas down there has massively increased due to massive increases in development is completely inarguable - it obviously has. And that increase in usage will have brought with it a lot of people with limited mobility for whom the walk isn't practical.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,927 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    I've had enough injuries or carrying a heavy bag or coming of a standing only train into Connolly that I've found it hugely useful. I've also got it from Heuston. I also used to Dublin bikes a lot or walked. But that's not always viable.

    I'm sure there lots coming long distances on it. And as L1011 says get enough people together an a certain % will have mobility issues.

    These also people coming in from the docklands train getting it back down into the city.

    But who argues against a light rail system in Dublin. It's a busy line/spur.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,382 ✭✭✭✭Dial Hard


    I don't think anyone is arguing against the spur, though? My original point way back at the start of the thread is that it's less than a 2km walk from Connolly to the Point and that should be a non-issue for any able-bodied adult. I specifically said things are obviously different for people with mobility issues, trying to get small kids to childcare etc.

    Anyway, I've made my point and belaboured it at this stage. Hopefully the bridge is back in action sooner rather than later for those who are reliant on the Luas.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,276 ✭✭✭dublinman1990


    Some breaking news

    The Luas Red Line between Connolly & The Point will be closed until November.

    Transdev have said after an assessment was carried out on the bridge at George Dock on the 21st of August, the bridge has been found to be structurally compromised. They said the bridge will have to be demolished and build a new replacement bridge between now & November.

    A replacement bus service will also come into operation from Connolly to The Point from tomorrow. It will operate every 10 minutes during Luas operating hours.

    There will be also some curtailments in place on Red Luas Line services from 7pm on Tuesday & Wednesday evening. Red Line Luas services will run between Saggart/Tallaght to Smithfield. Morning Luas services will be unaffected.

    It's to allow the bridge to be demolished at George Dock. Changes to the OHLE equipment will also be required on the stations that will be closed when the bridge is demolished later this week.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,889 ✭✭✭Dublin Calling


    I wonder which year the November will be in?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,710 ✭✭✭Infini


    I suspected once I heard of temperatures exceeding 1000c during that fire that this was going to be the result and guess I called it right. That kind of heat weakens metal and fractures concrete and it burned for 7 hours. At least the bridge is a small one so replacing it in 3 months is feasible.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,927 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    Was wondering if it would be a big job.

    Post edited by Flinty997 on


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