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Mart Price Tracker

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,415 ✭✭✭tabby aspreme


    Got 3.85 live weight for overage not QA Friesians in the mart this week, I'd probably need 7.75 from the factory to equal it, and they would be costing the factory another 15 cent with mart fees and haulage

    Post edited by tabby aspreme on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,370 ✭✭✭Sheep breeder


    Not so long ago anybody bringing cattle to the mart was fools and was giving cattle away.. that factory was king. Cattle killout varies from farm to farm and feeding is a huge factor in the finishing of cattle, also too much weight was been lost on an animal in the mart.. hard to please some people



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 21,164 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    3.85 is about a base price of 7.6/ kg for overage friesians grading g O-.

    After that you have to balance Mart and slaughter fees and differences in haulage

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,370 ✭✭✭Sheep breeder


    Does that animal have no costs again it like slaughtering , getting of rid of belly contents, bone etc, breaking carcass , boning, mincing and packing and transport to shelf and paying staff in the chain.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,065 ✭✭✭White Clover


    This is it. Every situation/farm is different. Like anything else in life, it is rarely black or white. Each situation requires careful consideration to ensure that the best decision is being made. I know that I could only dream about some of the K/O that some lads here are achieving but also accept that my land would not have the power of good land elsewhere in the country.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 833 ✭✭✭Cushtie


    Brother had a few Lim bulls in Tralee this week. All around 16 months, nothing hectic about them but QA alright. weight between 225kg and 260kg. They averaged out around 5.50 per KG. The lighter ones did better than the others on a per KG basis.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12 timtamjam


    Could @kk.man and @Bass Reeves tell me how you work out the mart price vs factory?

    I know the mart seems to be on top at present, KK is pretty hot today.

    I know kill out has a lot to do with it and your own stock, but any general tips for the newbies.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,808 ✭✭✭older by the day


    https://www.irishexaminer.com/farming/arid-41686245.html

    Now I don't know is there a quota on that meat coming in, so don't panic

    But I would not be giving 2000 euro for 350kg weanlings either



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 795 ✭✭✭CHOPS01


    Bought 9 stores today online, mix of LMx and HEx 15-18 months

    Ave 422kg €2088. Same stock were almost €1k less just 11/12 months ago.

    Nervous buying without seeing them in the flesh, but very happy with them.



  • Registered Users Posts: 521 ✭✭✭WoozieWu


    how was gort tonight



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,217 ✭✭✭dominatinMC


    Do fellas think that we have we reached 'peak' prices, or will these continue into the Winter? I have 21 bullocks, mainly AA & HE, averaging 450kgs out on the grass at the moment. But I'm tempted to sell some of the heavier (~ 490 kgs) ones to avail of the prices. Local mart has been onto me, but I feel they are desperate to get in stock. Hard to know. Stick or twist..



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 534 ✭✭✭HHH


    They would be highly sought after stock. Lots of farmers up my way are on the lookout for that exact profile of bullock to put into the shed and feed for slaughter in February/March. You'd be looking at anything from 4.30 to 4.75 a kilo depending on movements, fat cover, age and quality.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,261 ✭✭✭50HX


    Twist

    If you are OK stocking wise cash in now.

    You can take your time between here & grazing 26 to pick up a bit of value if you have to restock



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,217 ✭✭✭dominatinMC


    Cheers lads. Think I'll make my move and sell the heavier cattle. If prices hold, the lighter ones (approx 440kgs) should keep putting on weight and can sell for similar money in October-ish time.



  • Registered Users Posts: 521 ✭✭✭WoozieWu


    hmm id be holding onto them and putting weight on them for 6 weeks

    twould pay you to feed them

    by the sounds of it a lot of the finisher types on here are struggling to buy stock so be wary



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 21,164 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    Well if you say so we will wait and see. Stock are at peak prices IMO, I might be wrong, the fall.in price could be hard and fast.

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,717 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    Good video here on USA beef prices.



  • Registered Users Posts: 521 ✭✭✭WoozieWu


    you hope more like

    i imagine these cattle were bought right and the poster will have lots of margin either way

    if no pressure to sell id look to maximise returns with what i can control so feed a good high energy ration for 6 weeks

    its a great time to start feeding at grass just as the power is going out of it with the short days

    feed cost relative to animals ability to convert is low even on db cattle



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,217 ✭✭✭dominatinMC


    I'm thinking along the same lines, although I don't think the fall will be 'hard & fast'. Everything I've seen/heard/read says the shortage of cattle will last into next year - which should translate into prices remaining high (relative to last few years). But whether they stay as high as they are right now is questionable. In that sense maybe we've reached the peak.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,217 ✭✭✭dominatinMC


    It's hard to know. I think I'll hedge my bets and sell the heavier ones, as grass will be getting scarcer now and they've probably put on as much as they can without supplementing them with nuts/ration.

    I'll hold onto the lighter ones and let them finish off on grass for another 8 weeks or so and hopefully get them to 480-490ish. And hopefully prices remain for that period!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 21,164 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    At present we are the highest priced beef in Europe. We are an exsporting market both live and carcasse. The market that drives our market is the UK market we are on par with it for a few weeks no. Our kill is sub 25k a week. We are eating the gap in deficit fast.

    IMO and it is just an opinion not a wish the numbers are saying that the kill from mid September will be as strong or within a couple K of last years. The main difference will be less cull dairy cows. Last year from mid September to Mid December we averaged 37/38k.

    Now unless 100k finished cattle went North or on a boat extra compared to last year during the summer that would change the data. However there is nothing to suggest that happened.

    TThe last factor to worry about is what effect Brazibeef imports will have on the UK market from now to Christmas

    You are constantly on about suckler farmer bashing, it you are attacking the poster not debating the post.

    Friend sold cattle flat last Monday at 8/ kg. Factory made a mistake and priced them flat it was 7.67/ kg. It was over 100 per head. If flat prices dissappear to ordinary small producer where they can get them⁹ and if the base dropped 50c/ kg then that price would be 7.17/ kg. That is a collapse IMO and it might be worse. 80c/ kg on a finished 330kg carcasse is 265 euro.

    It really opened my friends eyes he sold 10. He has 10 more "that are not finished". He finishes to FS 4-/4= as a good few of his cattle come up from O+ to R-. They all would be FS 3. If I had been him I would ⁹have killed the lot at that price. He has 3-4 more that were 3+ or within a shade of it that he is now sorry he did not kill.

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,456 ✭✭✭bogman_bass


    I think you might be right. Everybody is holding onto stock and when they do sell it’s all going to come at once



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,339 ✭✭✭Dozer1


    I don’t know where all these cattle people are holding are lads. I drove the ring of kerry last week, did alot of Cork this week and I can't see where a glut of cattle are going to come from. Most places were either lowly stocked or nothing there or else a big dairy operation and they were well scattered



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,780 ✭✭✭DBK1


    I’d be in different farms every day of the week here and I’m seeing the complete opposite, everyone I’m in with is low on stock, making bales they don’t need and hoping for the prices to come back a bit so they’ll be able to buy stock for the winter. I’ve yet to meet a farmer this summer that’s holding onto stock they don’t want or need.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,780 ✭✭✭DBK1


    Ye seem to make things very complicated when it comes to selling cattle in your part of the world. He has no need to be sorry he didn’t sell the 3-4 more he has near fit, all he has to do is ring his agent and they’ll be booked in for next week at the same €8 a kilo flat price he got last Monday, no dramas, no need to have 10 at a time or a full load, just a simple phone call!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 760 ✭✭✭Silverdream


    Can't see any price drop, there is a shortage of beef worldwide, that so called glut from Brazil that was destined to the US will just make its way to Asia as Australia cannot make the supply needed.

    Add to that is the value of money has halved over a few short years imho. Lads hoping to see 900 euro average for weanlings again are deluded.



  • Registered Users Posts: 521 ✭✭✭WoozieWu


    demand is higher than supply and the cattle dont exist

    talking to a number of contractors they have made silage for people with nothing to eat it

    things are scarce and will be hard to replace

    get every cent you can

    you will need it



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 10,280 ✭✭✭✭893bet


    The deficit in cattle from last year is only one component in a complicated supply squeeze. Demand is way up and blue tongue free for exporters are two huge factors.

    That’s said I think the peak has been pretty much reached also. The cattle are not there. No point in keeping raising prices chasing the same number.



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