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Restaurant Recommendation Thread - Anyone for seconds?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,775 ✭✭✭notAMember


    Ballymaloe is unapologetically Irish country house cooking.

    I love paradiso, and glass curtain, and ballymaloe, but do I ever want those to become mindless clones of eachother? Hell no. I deplore the instagram coffee shop style now, all presenting the offerings in the same aesthetic. Irish meat dishes traditionally look exactly like how they have been presented in that photo and I love it. I see no need to undermine our own culture, it's there to be celebrated surely.

    Borani is a persian yoghurt-veg dip, a popular one at the moment, the guardian food section has had recipes for it, NYT food section. Middle eastern food in general got a popularity boost the last few years. It's been in the usual food mags etc. Sauce Jacques Cagna isn't a thing, it's a person/place. He's a famous french michelin chef. Ballymaloe often do this, they'll say Rachels' Scones, or Thomasina's salsa.

    But whether you know something or not, isn't some of the enjoyment of eating new dishes, the opportunity to talk to the servers and sommelier about it? I know I love to chat to the staff about something new to me, and I'm not the only one. i've a friend who will easily spend 15 minutes going through the menu with the staff before we order anything, we love this bit of a meal! It's not mcdonalds, we don't always want a photo and an description a 5 year old understands, we want something more challenging for the brain and tastes with that kind of restaurant, and the fun of finding a magic wine to go with it. Those descriptions are simply openers for conversation.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,029 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    The thing is, though, that it's not unapologetically Irish County House Food. It's a fusion between ICHF and contemporary international cooking, and for me, it falls between these stools. I don't believe miso broth, Vietnamese salsa or borani featured heavily on Irish County House tables in the past.

    Unfortunately there is no getting away from the price tag. It's a menu in the price range of Michelin starred restaurants - this brings with it expectations. That venison dish is not traditionally presented - it is reminiscent of 80s nouvelle cuisine - done badly. It isn't attractive looking, imo, and lacks care and attention to detail. The sauce wasn't properly strained and appears to be a little split. It really looks chucked on the plate by an overworked, rushed chef with little thought or attention. The lamb dish is better looking but is basically a carvery plate. I think the scallops dish looks neither traditional nor contemporary - it, too, just looks chucked on the plate to me, with little thoughts of tradition or aesthetics.

    The we come to the price tag verses the ingredients. I can see so much cost cutting in that menu. It is designed to be as inexpensive as possible while giving the illusion of oppulance. 2 oysters as a course? A traditional country house would serve 6. Rack of lamb is padded out with roast leg of lamb - not for contrast or variety, but rather to reduce the ingredients bill. 4 scallops is also, not a traditional main course portion. 3 cheeses seems a little mean on an Irish cheese board. I totally understand restaurants working to reduce ingredients costs to keep their prices down. This menu is keeping costs down while the price remains high.

    My point was not that I suspect that the food doesn't taste good - I have no doubt that it does. It's that I simply do not see value for money in terms of ingredients, creativity, skill and attention to detail. This is, of course, just my opinion, though. As I said, my parents loved to go as a treat, it was right up their street - particularly if someone else was paying😂. I've eaten there and that was my opinion at the time. I thought it was over priced, not terribly interesting and some of it wasn't executed particularly well.

    I also have respect for what the Ballymaloe organisation has done for Irish food and cooking but that doesn't change my opinion that that menu and food looks like extremely poor value to me. I shudder to think what their wine prices are.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,246 ✭✭✭sporina


    re: my evening in Ballymaloe.. to compare like with like; last July a bunch of us spent an eve in Blair's Cove (think I spoke about it here) - it was dire.. in every sense..

    Ballymaloe was magnificent - in every sense.. I smile when I think back to it.. what an escape.. hard to believe we only had to drive 40 mins to get there..

    Fair play to them - fair play.. hospitality with integrity, and pride while being really humble and down to earth.

    Friends are going there tonight for a Birthday celebration - I hope they enjoy it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,775 ✭✭✭notAMember


    Ah beery.

    You may not realise, but the way you comment again and again on the same review, it comes across like you have quite a high impression of your own opinion and therefore to you it needs to be reinforced and repeated multiple times. Providing some longwinded detailed justification, by counting/weighing/valuing the oysters or lamb on a plate? Thanks but I'll pass, no interest in that quibbling.

    And please rest assured, I also don't want to change your opinion, as I don't think it's any more important or weighty than sporinas, my own, or anyone elses.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,440 ✭✭✭.red.


    Integrity and Ballymaloe in the same paragraph?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,246 ✭✭✭sporina


    in the delivery of quality hospitality - 100% - this is a restaurant recommendation thread after all

    but Ballymaloe is sooo much more than food.. I felt so revived leaving the place..



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 12,960 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    That's great to hear a positive view of a restaurant, we are all here for it! And if more people had a similar experience, all the better! And each to their own of course; your choice, your food.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,165 ✭✭✭Wyldwood


    I know you all, in this thread, are proper foodies who like fine dining, however, I hope to get some recommendations for an awkward situation. I have some out of town visitors due next week and one of the group has a lot of dietary restrictions and can only eat very plain basic meals (no sauces, dressings, spices). I'm looking for a restaurant in town to go for lunch that can cater for everyone but also will do a plain unadorned meal for the person with issues. No salads or veggie places as they can't eat them either.

    Any suggestions welcomed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 957 ✭✭✭Duvet Day


    I'd recommend Market Lane..definitely my favourite restaurant in town.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,307 ✭✭✭✭sammyjo90


    What does everyone else like to eat?

    Wherever ye end up going, Any chef worth their salt will accommodate you given enough notice. So ring them/pop in advance and ask.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,165 ✭✭✭Wyldwood


    Thanks for the replies. Will have a look at Market Lane. As far as I know nobody else has any dietery requirements so don't need to worry about them but don't want the one person who has to be left hungry :)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,246 ✭✭✭sporina


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    sushi from Dashi this evening - delicious - v satisfying - no craving for dessert afterwards

    my 1st time having sushi as a meal..

    quality was great..

    would prob prefer it earlier in the day - i like a hot meal in the eve - regardless of the weather - but i feel v satisfied



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,522 ✭✭✭JackieChang


    Anybody know what's the busiest time tomorrow at The Barn restaurant carvery? I'd like to avoid it. Would it be packed to the rafters at 2pm?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,617 ✭✭✭Harika


    Google shows this for the Barn. I would think as it's vacation time it would not be cramped



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,246 ✭✭✭sporina


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    Novecento this evening

    delicious - and it was ready at the scheduled time 🥰🍕



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 12,960 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    Novecento! 😍 If that's ham, mushroom and black olives…? that just happens to be my favourite pizza combo!! 💋



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,029 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    Funny, you almost never see sliced olives on a pizza - it's usual whole olives which I then proceed to slice up and spread out!

    Sliced olives on pizza ftw!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,246 ✭✭✭sporina


    yep those wer the toppings - ha ha class igC.. our fav too.. well we like red peppers on a pizza also but that combo is perfect in its own right



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,246 ✭✭✭sporina


    re: Wilton Bar and Restaurant .. I was there last night with a mate - while we dined we had the unfortunate view of the floor manager eating 3 diff plates of food at intervals while on duty - in the kitchen (it had no door or if it did it was open - so this was our view unfortunately).. I was nauseous.

    There were staff passing him going in and out of kitchen - a great example - I dread to think what goes on in that kitchen if this is the attitude of a manager.. free for all.

    I spoke to another manager when leaving - told him about this - he said it was unacceptable.. and would pass our observation onto the general manager

    The place is not great anyway - but its convenient for us for reasons.. but i won't be going there again..

    I do not recommend this place.

    Other than that, it looks grubby - staff not very presentable either - dirty uniforms etc..

    I guess the owners don't care



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 12,960 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    I only went to the Wilton for a coffee last week, the €4.50 for a white coffee put me off 😅



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,246 ✭✭✭sporina


    yes its v €€ - tea was €4.. imagine.. €3.80 in the Kingsley but at least its a hotel and you get home made bickies with it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,964 ✭✭✭fonecrusher1


    Its a mank hole. Always has been the few times I've been in there over the years. Its the last place i'd go for grub or pints in Bishopstown.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,029 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    I don't quite follow. Was he eating off of customer's plates, leftovers or what? Or was he eating his own food while working?

    While I understand that servers shouldn't be eating while on duty, I don't quite get what was nauseating. Am I missing something?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,246 ✭✭✭sporina




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,307 ✭✭✭✭sammyjo90


    Not a fan of the place myself but Im the same as tBR to be honest. It reads that he was eating 3 different times. But was it off of plates coming back into the kitchen? I think you are just missing a couple of words from the original post.

    Otherwise...he was just eating...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,246 ✭✭✭sporina


    again - there is nothing more I can ad,… but if your happy with such practices.. well.. each to their own..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 534 ✭✭✭Mr.CoolGuy




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,246 ✭✭✭sporina


    i have nothing more to add to my post - honestly - revolting



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,476 ✭✭✭Be right back


    Was he eating left over food from customers or eating fresh meals?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,029 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    We'll probably never know. The poster is too traumatised to elaborate, apparently.



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