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Waterford Airport.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,967 ✭✭✭914


    Don't they all to that.

    FG promised a stand alone university for Waterford back in 2008.

    FF promised 24/cardiac care (the famous picture)

    Most recently promised the airport.

    Promise the sun moon and the stars, get elected, spend four years talking about trying to deliver it and how close it is to delivery. Next election promise it again.

    Rinse and repeat.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,282 ✭✭✭azimuth17


    Some people posting here seem to believe (in Santa) that the government is an honest broker in this. Just put up the right business case and all will be well, not! Like the university and UHW issue and FDI, that discounts the ever present political interference in Ireland…in everything.

    There is no apolitical delivery policy of anything, anywhere in Ireland.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,403 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    sounds like something a free market libertarian would say!

    again, theres no conclusive evidence to support that complete privatisation of critical public infrastructure actually has many if any long term public benefits, but tends to have great private investor benefits, but ppp agreements tend to have far better outcomes for all, than complete privatisation



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 139 ✭✭Dum_Dum_2


    Moon and stars are grandiose event centres and overspecced hospitals.

    Access to top tier third level education, a functioning health service and mass aviation are baseline expectations in a modern society. Nearly every other part of the country has access to all three. We have access to none of these. That's unique.

    Don't slip into the mentality that these are special or unique expectations - they are not.

    Government politicians and their paid shills on social media have brainwashed many into lowering their expectations.

    I expect all three to be met. The easiest of these is the Airport - gift wrapped with a bow on top. Unfortunately for Butler and Cummins they already have the whiff of failure on them - and only six months in.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 101 ✭✭dan575283578


    Think it's safe to say that nothing will happen construction wise in 2025. The funding is nowhere in sight and it's probably too late now for any possibility of the work commencing while the ground is still dry in the summer. What a shame.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,903 ✭✭✭Bards


    Due to be announced today motorway between cork and limerick..this put ORK within 1 hour of SNN, same for limerick having access to ORK and SNN ..seems a but ridiculous that ORK is also getting 200m to develop and needing pax from munster and south leinster to justify the development

    ..all the while WAT is denied 12m to lengthen runway to allow Jet Aircraft and to operate as a fully functional regional airport serving the South East

    https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/munster/arid-41651816.html

    Post edited by Bards on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,967 ✭✭✭914


    "This week in the European Parliament, I raised Waterford Airport, at the highest levels of the EU. It is time for action. I asked the EU Transport Commissioner to consider a new EU fund for regional airports. I also highlighted the potential of Waterford Airport to develop new drone and sustainable aviation fuel technology. I hope to meet with Minister Darragh O'Brien and management of the airport in the coming days. It is time to get Waterford Airport reopen again!"

    From Cynthia Ní Mhurchú's social media



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,137 ✭✭✭reni10


    €150million to buy and millions more to run every year for the City West hotel or refugee centre as it is now at the drop of the hat but not a penny for Waterford airport for decades!

    Really does show you what this government thinks of us in Waterford and the surrounding areas.

    Our tax money is good enough to house and care for refugees but not good enough to help and improve the lives of tax payers, voters, workers etc from this area in terms of giving them badly needed infrastructure….


    Oh and what happened to that €16billion we got from Apple? All very quiet on that front as well and they wonder why there is an undercurrent of anger building!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 139 ✭✭Dum_Dum_2


    Regarding the runway extension, Cork Airport have made it clear that the South East region is their catchment. Buses are to be laid on from as far afield as Kilkenny. Therefore, any investment in Waterford would be viewed as 'stealing' from them. Logic and geography play no part in any of this psychosis.

    They have the full backing of the Cork Sugar Daddy, who will fight tooth and nail to make sure you have less so they can have more - 200 million more. He derives pleasure in keeping friends & family apart and crippling business in this region so he can act the big man in Cork - and they lap it up.

    Ever the sycophant, Mary Butler is four-square behind the Cork Sugar Daddy. When confronted about the Airport, she blames a civil service lifer who said 'boo' to her.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,403 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    yup, all our ills are due to immigrants! we get it! strangely enough, immigration is actually required for us to remain a functioning modern economy, we never had the kids folks in order to do so, and we re never gonna have them!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,804 ✭✭✭Deiseen


    Think your conflating educated skilled immigrant workers coming here to benefit the country with fake refugees coming in to scam the system.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,967 ✭✭✭914


    Derry Airport look to be getting a Derry to Dublin PSO route

    https://www.derryjournal.com/news/politics/derry-dublin-air-route-to-take-off-again-next-year-says-transport-minister-darragh-obrien-5186329?fbclid=IwQ0xDSwLCeq5jbGNrAsJ6IWV4dG4DYWVtAjExAAEe1uyweP-fQlrJFkycWMlsma4dzY3WVjq1R6DbQ9bURW4k9hdeL1B2Vi_bkk8_aem_yxEbvmCF0iQlIPGqpINh2Q



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,403 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    ah yea, they ould 'fakerugees' arguments, come on lads, grow the fcuk up! ireland has been sending emigrants abroad for centuries, its how the world works, without which, even ireland wouldnt be the country it now is without both emigration and immigration! again, grow the fcuk up!

    there is simply no other way to deal with aging demographics, if we dont bring them in, this accelerates, and the last thing we want is an extremely old and aging country, which leads to economic and social deterioration! this is simply what happens under such conditions!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,804 ✭✭✭Deiseen


    And any Irish person who lies upon entering another country, commits a crime or is there illegally should be sent home

    You seem to be implying that the Fakeugee thing is misinformation/made up. If you do then your even more naive then all your posts suggest and haven't been keeping up with the news. Even the mainstream media has to acknowledge this is a huge issue.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,967 ✭✭✭914


    Unless the airport is handling immigration flights can we not get into the whole refugee debate as there are plenty of threads online for people to discuss that, let's just keep this to the airport.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,403 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    again, grow up! yes, if laws are broken, then…..! but the reality is, we actually need immigration, and fast, or our economy and society will tank, and tank very quickly! its simply not possible to maintain a functioning economy and society with an aging population, i.e. if you think our health system issues are gonna improve under this dynamic, you better think again! immigration is the only game in town in order to try resolve such critical problems, i.e. we need to funnel immigrants into such critical sectors, such as construction, we simply didnt have enough kids to do so, and we re never gonna either!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,804 ✭✭✭Deiseen


    Once again, you are conflating (or confusing!) skilled immigration (which the vast majority are in favour of) with people's concerns about unsavoury types coming to scam the system.

    Yes we need young, dynamic, hard working, educated skilled workers. No we do not need multitudes of unskilled people from the third world coming to pull a fast one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,804 ✭✭✭Deiseen


    Maybe the airport can be used to repatriate all of Irelands unsavoury characters back to their place of origin and they can fly Wanderer out on one of them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,159 ✭✭✭nhg


    https://www.facebook.com/share/p/18zSpTJ3xT/?mibextid=wwXIfr



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,967 ✭✭✭914


    Another business case required!

    "Exclusive...

    Breaking...

    Waterford Airport

    Ministers Butler and Cummins, along with the Chief Executive and Director of Services of Waterford City and County Council had a lengthy meeting with Transport Minister Darragh O’Brien, his Secretary General and Department officials on Waterford Airport yesterday evening.

    The Munster Express understands it was a frank and open exchange on progressing the airport runway extension project, as committed to in the Programme for Government. Department of Transport officials made it clear that the project must comply with infrastructure guidelines and the Public Spending Code that have been put in place since 2019.

    A pathway forward for the project was outlined, which requires the submission of a business case, as per the Public Spending Code.

    Minister O’Brien outlined his commitment to progressing this project and set out a way forward to making this happen."



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 586 ✭✭✭Valhalla90


    You would swear there was never a business case submitted. Just all delay tactics. Issue is not going to go away for Butler & Cummins!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,403 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    fcuking outrageous stuff, and we ll vote them back in, over and over again to!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 293 ✭✭Qaanaaq


    Do you not think that perhaps the original business case may have been rubbish? And that is part of the reason. You have to at least consider that it may not have done WAT any favours.

    At least write a strong one with good arguments that can stand up.

    I think the potential is there. Just need it all professionally written up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,804 ✭✭✭Deiseen


    Its possible, a little transparency would be nice.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,967 ✭✭✭914


    One would imagine, the airport itself doesn't write these reports but it would be completed by an external company who is used to doing these kind of things.

    I would expect the airport would provide the relevant information, statistics, projections etc and some other company would be responsible for putting it together.

    It would be nice if the business case was public as all we have to go on is our political representatives saying that it was a strong case.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,804 ✭✭✭Deiseen


    Surely if it was in the airports interest it would get accidentally leaked just so people could see that we are being taken for a ride.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,903 ✭✭✭Bards


    They're (the govt mouthpiece)gas lighting us now

    https://www.rte.ie/create/2025/0707/1518857-on-this-week-ryanair-launches-its-first-ever-route/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25 Meatball.Martin


    Butler n Cummins aint gonna be able to deliver. On any front. Only in it for the fame, the social media spins & the nice pensions. Politics these days in just about managing the mess and hitting the PR hard. Photo bomb some event; Social Post; claim the kudos; Wait for "likes" — rinse n repeat! Sweeping the leaves into a corners until the next breeze rises. Has been since the Crash of 08.

    Id agree that the current Govt is seeking to lower all expectations. just heard that they want developers to decrease the minimum size of an apartment. How small is small. Future generations will be living in chicken coops!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,403 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    yea the crash wrecked everything, and then we decided to add insult and also implement austerity, go us!

    we ve screwed the young, and in return screwed ourselves, again, go us!

    oh and we ll rush to the boxes and vote the same lads back in, over and over, tis all good!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 421 ✭✭cal naughton


    Michael O'Leary just on with Ivan Yates just there said that Waterford will never be a commercial airport as it's in the catchment area of both Cork and Dublin!

    He cited his friend in Nenagh who used to use Cork and Shannon now using Dublin due to Motorway connectivity!



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