Texas girls' summer camp flood tragedy.

Yes it does and has. It's an area prone to flash floods. There have been similar disasters in the past. They didn't want an early warning system. They are gutting meteorological services. They have all the science, technology and money in the world. I bet the native Indians would not have camped there during flood risk weather.

Greed, wilful ignorance and arrogance killed those girls.

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Please explain to us how the funding that was cut would have helped those girls? Was there a plan about to be rolled out between January and July this year to install technology that would alert people in the area that an avalanche of water was running down the hill?

A lot of sick minds here getting off on a tragedy

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@Pa ElGrande

I'm saying the administration is greedy, willfully ignorant and arrogant and people vote for this.

Also, regarding Ireland, you can use the Internet to find out about flood prone areas, the effects of climate change, etc etc etc

Anyway. Over and out.

There was a warning sent 1.14 pm and again around 4pm at night .the water rose very fast more than any forecaster expected maybe most people were sleeping. There was a siren flood warning system proposed but it was rejected as being too expensive . That area is in a area that's prone the flooding .hundreds of people were saved by rescuers or by simply swimming out of the buildings . There needs to be a system to call and txt all the people were working in the camp eg move out move to a higher area. Asap there is a risk of flooding in the area staff should be ready to move all campers out quickly

The county commissioners of Kerr County voted against installing the sirens in 2017. I dont know why people are tying themselves up in knots to blame trump and to use the deaths of these children to get a dig in at the current admin but its really nothing to do with them, or with any cuts that might have happened or not.

The president doesn't really have any control over how a state, let alone a small county, spends their money. Anyway, the state of Texas has now offered to install these sirens in this county to bring it in line with neighbouring ones. As stated several times, there already is a system in place to broadcast warnings to cell phones, TVs and radios in the area, and these alerts were issued

The elephant in the room here is a populace, local Government, and administration given to climate change denial.

It would be nice to think such an awful tragedy would change hearts but I doubt it.

Abbot doing a live press conference now.

Anyone know why he’s in a wheelchair?

As @Manic Moran said above, there were three extra staff on as they were expecting trouble. So, no investigation needed. Warnings were issued for the area well in advance.

The FEMA restructuring is to have their budget allocated to the states themselves to direct where it's most needed. Biden's inaction over the Carolina flooding is one of the major reasons for this. People on both sides of the isle should welcome that move as it effectively stops a President using FEMA as a political football directing more funding to disaster responses that 'vote a certain way'.

Natural Disasters have happened, are happening and will continue to happen. Technology can only do so much, there have been ten new sensors added to this area's rivers in 2017. In 2023 Pepsi part funded a project to replace flood gates. There has been and will continue to be investment in technology and rightfully so.

But it seems here the main thing is to have a go at Trump and every single natural disaster is being attributed to him. Amazing, as there was no such scrutiny of Biden and how he failed the people of the Carolinas.

Least of all, our own Irish flood systems are virtually non-existent. The long running Lough Funshinagh in Co. Roscommon is an easy fix, but nothing done. Regular flooding in Midleton, Cork and nothing being done despite promises and promises over the decades. Plenty more examples too - but at the risk of going off-topic, I'll leave it there.

A tree fell on him when he was out jogging years ago

No doubt it was planted by them pesky Dems!

This is something I've been observing in relation to a good many "emergency" situations (some of which are not really emergencies, but seem like that to the people concerned) : there's an assumption on the part of "the authorities" that everything digital will work fine. But it doesn't. Over and over again I see a complete breakdown of digital communications, either because networks go offline, or are saturated, or send out warnings too late, or the intended audience simply doesn't have access (no coverage, batteries dead, phone in the wrong place at the wrong time … )

I don't believe in national military service, but I do think we should all be made to do national disaster service on a regular basis, so that lessons learnt from catastrophes fifty years ago aren't forgotten, and so that we learn the limits of modern convenience technology.

That's not what you were claiming in the previous post. Desperate whataboutery to distract from being caught out inventing fictional policies.

In this post "nobody knows yet what FEMA 2.0 will exactly look like."

But in the previous post you were made the following specific statements of fact as to what FEMA 2.0 would be like:

"The FEMA restructuring is to have their budget allocated to the states themselves to direct where it's most needed… it effectively stops a President using FEMA as a political football directing more funding to disaster responses that 'vote a certain way'."

Self discrediting. Your claims have no credibility.

Meanwhile, what Trump's public remarks are:

"We’re going to give out less money,” he said. “We’re going to give it out directly. It’ll be from the president’s office. We’ll have somebody here, could be homeland security.”

You claimed to be concerned about it being a political football, but obviously don't, or you would be critical of any such intention coming from the White House.

The only consistent line is defend Trump and attack Democrats even when that means contradicting yourself, ignoring Trump's public comments and inventing policies for the administration that contradict their public comments.

It's not even an app that needs to be installed, it's already built into both Android and iphone. The highest level of warning can't be opted out from and sounds a very loud (unignorable) sound even if the phone is on silent. I think there was an issue with phone coverage in that hilly region though. That said, I think the tech should work in areas where there is coverage. Again though as someone pointed out a few days ago - when you put systems like this in place, there is a temptation to use them when they aren't really needed (under an abundance of caution) which can make people complacent about the warnings. But, I'm sure this will all come out afterwards.

The political point scoring here is sad though.