Kilkenny GAA Thread

I know it wasn't an issue for Kilkenny when you were winning all those all Irelands with Brian Cody, but Leinster as weak as it is right now is probably doing you no favours at the moment.

I can't understand how kk let tipp have so many puckouts and work it up for a simple score. As many have said time after time after time there's plenty of good kk coaches in different counties and miles ahead of what kk have.Don't anyone be fooled the job will be there for Lyng if he wants it. I'd nearly go as far as saying mark dowling would be re appointed for getting to a final. That's what we're dealing with in kk. Molloy and mossy were excellent today. Kk hurling Is at a crossroads. 1 all Ireland in 10 years across all grades. How long more will this go on?some of our puckouts again were shocking.this team has failed in a lot of big games and inst good enough.

I don't know if tj will go. Some of his frees were brilliant.really disappointed with deegan and Richie reid. How with a man up could we not push up

Struggling to understand how we lost today. Players must be extremely disappointed. Tipp did not play well but Kilkenny's supposed best line coughed up 4 goals and we lost by 2 points; corner backs were off form today as was Mullen. Tipp should be much better in the final but I can't see them beating Cork, who look in a different class.

Cian Kenny, Jordan Molloy, John Donnelly, Billy Ryan, Mossy and TJ were excellent. Cian was a lynchpin and he seemed to have an injury in the last 5. The defense steadied with Blanch. Deegan will be disgusted with the critical late turnover; the resulting goal was a great but freak effort.

Fair dues to this young promising Tipp team; they persevered despite Kilkenny dominating a lot of the game and were rewarded with the breaks.

JoJohn donnelly very poor all championship and if he wasn't captain could have been taken off in nearly every game.

It was mentioned on here a few times during the week that it was important to push up on the Tipp puck out in order to cut out their running game at source. Then our own puck out was brain dead again. As someone said earlier the players lost this one for us and you can’t account for coughing up vital scores due to unforced errors but I’ve said it so many times on here and I’ll say it again we looked a very poorly coached team again today .

No chance

Ah it does yeah I suppose looking at tipp in the last 5 years they’ve come from a very low ebb to very high levels very quickly it takes a lot of things to be going right for it to happen but if we see more improvement in the underage and get the right people involved in the right roles management coaches etc things could be more positive very quickly

All the counties in Munster have been down and made a resurgence lately Clare cork Limerick tipp waterford will be next if they mind thoose minors and get them through to u20 and senior

Things will probably have to dip a bit more before they get better for kk again unfortunately

No the bench is poor there was probably only 2 starting slots up for grabs before today if there was more competition in defence and attack the overall level would be better of all the players if they know 2 lads could potentially take there spot instead of being picked everyday no matter how they perform

It may be Murphy's last game. There comes a time when saving ability is over ridden by your puckout deliveries. I think his reflexes might be slowing a bit too.

I don't know the goalies around the county. But you can't carry a goalie plus Paddy Deegan a bit loose with possession.

Back around 2014 the puckout issue wasn't as critical. But Nicky Quaid changed that.

I was just commenting elsewhere that after 2010 Kilkenny were able to bring in Colin Fennelly and Paul Murphy who were excellent in the 2011 All Ireland. Those new players don't seem to be there now.

I’ll take a good look tomorrow but while we made a few terrible errors late on that is so unlike Kilkenny, let’s acknowledge one thing, we were very unlucky to lose that game.

9 times out of 10 the clearance for first goal doesn’t squirt to an open Tipp player.
9 times out of 10 Murphy’s initial save for 2nd goal doesn’t end up in net
9 times out of 10 Donoghue swinging with little control shoots wide or sails over bar, instead, undershot, it loops into top corner

The scoreboard balls up put the seal on a day when almost nothing broke right for us at crucial moments.

I’m not saying we are in great shape, it’s just that some days the Gods just piss on you.

Same happens every year. We get to a semi or final and Reid gets exposed year after year. General consensus is he is not good enough and everyone agrees. Miraculously every year he goes back in at 6 for league and Leinster we play nobody and he looks great . De Ja Vue. Paddy Deegan has been getting cleaned in big games in Croke Park the last 8 years. Just not good enough, move them on now.

No, and it would be extremely petty, stupid and utterly pathetic of us to make it an issue at all.

2/3 points down, it didn’t matter, we needed a goal anyway to get something out of the game.

It was our own poor defending, poor attacking and fanning on the ball that cost us, not the score-keeping.

I think it is time for a few changes. Eoin Murphy has been a great servant to Kilkenny but his puckouts are not good enough. Derek Lyng has had his chances, time for new coaches. We have to find a centre back and move on from Richie Reid. Paddy Deegan is a wholehearted player but uses the ball poorly

John Donnelly had a great first half today, don’t know what game you watching, He was involved in a number kk scores and worked his socks off . You should stick to the camogie doubt you know much about that either.

i wasnt expecting it but today was one of them days where everything went wrong , i haven't seen a kilkenny full back line play as bad as that in croke park in a long time too