Kilkenny GAA Thread

Watched both the games in Croke Park today - they were both belters. But really it is a bit disappointing that Croke Park was pretty much empty for the Camogie. I came up through Drumcondra and there must have been a good few thousand fans outside the various pubs along the way, who cant be bothered with it. Real shame.

Regarding the Camogs, havent seen any mention really of the referees decision to award a penalty in extra time - couldnt believe it.

I would argue that tbh if KK had taken their points instead of going for goal, they'd have made up the three points never mind just the two.

If it was any other county, there would be a replay as it materially affected play. But no chance for KK

Wonder did the referee have the correct score recorded also in the closing stages. He is the sole and ultimate arbiter in score-keeping, so you would have to think he had, regardless of what the stadium scoreboards showed.

That’s nonsense. If Kilkenny won would Tipp have got a replay as the decision not to send Deegan off also affected play? Of course they wouldn’t get a replay.

Having said that it was an awful error that you could understand if it happened in a club ground with young fellas in charge of the score board, but it’s simply not good enough for that to happen in senior intercounty.

If Kilkenny had to score a late goal, you could imagine the consternation if the game was awarded to Kilkenny 15 minutes after the end of the match.

It’ll get a token mention on the Sunday game.

It would be replayed for sure not that I want a replay now.

TJ was savage today. I'm sure he's done but he was class. Kilkenny way to workmanlike in many aspects. Tipp were hungrier and had the moments of magic. Kilkenny didnt.

Why what would you like them to do on the Sunday game?

The wrong score made no difference, it’s a weak straw to grasp.

The simple fact is that when it came down to it, Tipp’s players to a man stood and made themselves count, and too many of our didn’t.

Also tactically, Cahill beat Lyng hands down. Watching Shelley play short puck outs when a man up was criminal. Mullen and Richie Reid (once again in a big game) should have been gone by half time, both were too casual and not in the fight at all, Cody too.

Watching Reid and Deegan play sky ball in the second half, making lords out of the Tipp HB line, why wasn’t a word passed on to play it diagonally? Billy Ryan and Mossy were constantly making runs and had gotten out in front of their man numerous times, and got scores or win frees, won the ball nearly every time, and then we stop playing in front of them and launch it? Madness.

And the fanning around? We coughed up, by my count, a goal and 5 points from mis-placed passes and poor control because we were too casual in our play.

Also, zero goal threat. Apart from Donnelly’s shot at the end, was Shelley troubled at all really? I don’t remember him making a save of real note. Can’t be expecting to win matches, never mind an All-Ireland, if you can’t score goals.

As for the goals conceded, Jesus we were poor in our hooking and blocking compared to Tipp, or bunching and leaving men free. Total lack of discipline and execution of the basics.

And yet, we could easily have won. It sees more a game we lost than a game Tipp won, though I don’t think we can take anything from Tipp, they deserved to win in the end. They got more out of themselves than we did.

And what is it as a county that we routinely fail to handle playing against a sweeper or playing against a team with a man down? Time and again we just don’t seem capable of handling it. I’ll put it this way, had we gone a man down when they did, they’d have won by 5/6 points, no way would they have let that opportunity to hammer home their advantage. Are we still so tactically naive as a county not to be able to know how to play or use an extra man?

Not that having an extra man matter when it’s Richie Reid, his distribution by that point had gone to sh!t. Blanchfield would have been a far better loose man, far better at linking up with midfield and playing through the lines, scoring from distance and playing ball in front of the runner.

And the most galling thing? Most of that Tipp team are lads that have been blooded over the last few years, league and championship. Granted underage success has helped them, but we’ve been involved towards the end of underage competitions too. Where was our young players? They’re never going to develop if they don’t get chances to fail and learn. Lack of underage success doesn’t have to be a death knell, sometimes you just have to develop what you’ve got later, but we do t seem to have any idea on how to do that. And we look stale as a result.

A bad day. They’ve become too frequent, the county board needs to have a serious look at things from the ground up, and if needs be go outside the county for direction.

Hard luck today lads. I felt like ye had the beating of Tipp but leaking three goals like that in first half was always going to make the task alot harder. I thought Kilkenny were slightly off the intensity as well at stages, maybe the long spell after winning Leinster final was a factor? I like Derek Lyng, he is a likeable manager always speaks well but I assume his term as manager must be up?