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Galway GAA Discussion Thread #2

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,896 ✭✭✭Robson99


    COS was the only other alternative. Donegal got a much tougher trek having to come to the Hyde



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,023 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    Presumably you also thought it a joke when the game was in Sligo last year?

    Cavan is only 15 mins longer fro Galway City.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,947 ✭✭✭Markus Antonius


    Didn't think anything of it. Was about the same for both teams so fair enough. Was there to see it too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,023 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    About the same? County Galway starts only an hour from Markievicz park, while it is two hours to the nearest part of Co Armagh. The nearest part of Galway is 1hour 30 from Cavan, while it is an hour to any part of Armagh.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,407 ✭✭✭SqueakyKneecap


    I don't really have an issue with Breffni as a neutral venue. Armagh also did travel to 2 Connacht venues for the last 2 group meetings. Maybe it could've benefited with an earlier throw-in time but they probably want the highest possible viewership slot for Saturday evenings.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 646 ✭✭✭Avon8


    "Bring it back to a 1pt game". Scoring the actual free brings it back to a draw game. Imagine he tapped it over and we lost by 1, the stuff we'd be hearing from those who completely form their opinion based upon the outcome

    A free from the top of the arc with the wind is "a potshot" now also? It's a free thats slotted over about 80% of the time

    Kerry were 5 points down to Cork early in the second half and brought multiple frees out for 2pt. Armagh did it from a winning position multiple times v Dublin. It's completely standard practice now. The fact we're 2points down with 6 minutes left makes it even more of a slam dunk



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,896 ✭✭✭Robson99


    We lost by 1 against Dublin by taking a 45 short and nothing came off it. If we had taken our 1 point Sunday its possible we would have won the game. We had all the momentum and we made a mess of it. We don't have reliable free takers from 40m as was evident in the AIF last year…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,312 ✭✭✭threeball


    But they didn't score and the success rate is far less than 80% even in non pressure situations where the guy taking it hasn't even kicked a free yet. Momentum was everything. They had a nailed on, 100% scoring opportunity and they threw it away for a risk, that put the game back in Derrys hands. Its called game management and we're very poor at it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 503 ✭✭✭Tommybojangles


    I would normally be totally in favour of playing the percentages and takign the ball out to the 2 point arc is the percentage paly, especially with the wind. BUT context has to come into it and in this case it was an awful decision. We were dominating at that stage and had all the momentum. Tap over the point and reload again. Mentally it shows the confidence that we have it and are backing ourselves to drive on. As many have said it was tierney's first free of the game as well and the wide killed our momentum



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,947 ✭✭✭Markus Antonius


    While I'd be one of Tierney's biggest critics, he did get those two crucial goals when it seemed all was lost. A draw was way more than Galway deserved and actually felt bad for the derry fans...



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,893 ✭✭✭Happyilylost


    Name another two pointer free Galway have missed this year? I'm actually racking my brain for one (maybe one against Donegal in the storm).... Shane Walsh (to be fair) has kicked the majority, but so too too has Conroy, Tierney and Finnerty. I would say our conversion rate of 2 point frees is way above 80%. We have to remember Walsh was taking off prior to all this against Derry. Unfortunately the version of Walsh we have now is similar to that of last year rather than the free flowing one we had in the league where kicking from distance and off the ground (Tyrone into a gale springs to mind) was a regular occurrence. Cruel the injuries some of these lads have.

    45 against Dublin argument makes no sense. Walsh had missed a free off the ground not long before and it was closer than a 45. He obviously felt he didn't have the range against a stiff breeze making it a very low % shot.

    Only option after Walsh is Gleeson, who outside of his Connacht Final heroics has not been converting anything with regular efficiency.

    The kick for Tierney for me for a player of his calibre was straightforward (straightforward in the context of an intercounty footballer). Hits 10 I think he nails most if not all. Hitting the corner flag again is a 1 on a 100. Unfortunately we got that one on Sunday. That's sport. Some of the other pot shots I'm sure Joyce was annoyed about. I'd be surprised if he felt that free was one. And if given the opportunity again Galway would go for 2.

    Post edited by Happyilylost on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,312 ✭✭✭threeball


    No ones criticising Tierney, this was either a team decision or one on the line, as you could see Tierney looking around to see if he got the all clear. Collective failure. And yes we didn't deserve the draw. Lucky goals kept us in a match we should.t be in.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,312 ✭✭✭threeball


    "if given the opportunity again, Galway wouldn't go for 2"

    So it was the wrong decision.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,022 ✭✭✭ShamNNspace


    That free was on 63 mins, the rain was pissin down,a swirling breeze, the ball was like a bar a soap, I still think it was the wrong option to go for the 2 pointer, we had momentum and Derry was like a boxer on the ropes at that stage, we should have backed ourselves to get at least one more score and that call should have come from the sideline... Heart took over head imo



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,896 ✭✭✭Robson99


    45 against Dublin was in the first half when Galway had the breeze… into the Prairie end, straight in front of the post



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,959 ✭✭✭BENDYBINN


    Going for 2 is always the wrong decision when you miss... Bit like going for the corner in rugby..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,893 ✭✭✭Happyilylost


    Apologies edited. "Galway would go for it again"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,893 ✭✭✭Happyilylost


    When you get a chance to connect with the head you don't throw to the body.

    It's all hindsight. Two pointer likely would of finished them. Maybe a one pointer, Derry get their hands on the ball and go up to put it back to two.

    In that 7 or 8 minutes the pot shots from Cooke, Walsh and Molloy under pressure to name but 3 were worse in my eyes than a shot from a free in front of the posts.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,022 ✭✭✭ShamNNspace


    That wasn't the gamble to take in those conditions with 7 minutes left imo



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,896 ✭✭✭Robson99


    All well and good if you have a reliable free taker. We don't so it was a poor call



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,947 ✭✭✭Markus Antonius


    Tierney, off the back of his reliable free-taking, shepherded his club to an all ireland intermediate victory. Whether it was the two lost all irelands that knocked the confidence or maybe just didn't translate well to county level from the beginning.

    Was enthusiastic about the 2 pointer rule at the start of the year, now am afraid of it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 646 ✭✭✭Avon8


    McBrearty hit a two pointer in the Donegal Tyrone game and Donegal went up by 2 with 5 mins to play. They had every bit of momentum you could possibly imagine at that point. They literally didn't touch the ball again in that game.

    There was less than 6 minutes left and Galway would've been a point down after the tapover. It's very easy to keep possession in Football. A point down with 6 to play you're very much odds against to win or draw the game regardless of momentum.

    It's completely results based chatter. Had the free went over we'd never hear of it again. As happened multiple times during the league. And as all the other top teams are doing. Maybe we should be the outlier and go against what everyone else is doing



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 902 ✭✭✭MattressRick


    A lot to be concerned about in recent performances. Soft as putty down the spine of our defence in Castlebar where Mayo should've scored 2 maybe 3 goals. Cleaned in midfield against Dublin and most of last Sunday. And forward play is too slow. Just not moving it forward fast enough, bar the likes of Thompsons defence splitting kick for that brilliant Tierney goal.

    At the end of the day, for both the Dublin and Derry matches, Galway had clawed back but when both teams had the last kickout, Galway didn't lay a hand on them when they went the full length to get a score. How Galway couldn't have marked man to man last Sunday is frustrating, it went out to the corner back and he can't play it back to the goalie, it's pure jeopardy, yet Galway let them up the length of the pitch and nearly to the penalty spot.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,022 ✭✭✭ShamNNspace


    You reckon Derry would be able to hold possession for 6 mins?? . Not the way the game is played now, helter-skelter in the last 10 minutes, tiring players, slippy conditions, signs on it Galway won the kickout straight away after the 2 pointer attempt... No way, wrong decision in those conditions with 7 minutes left imo



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 103 ✭✭bike2wkr


    Agreed. Team he's picking is not performing 3 games in a row now. Imo drop walsh and mcDaid. Cein D'Arcy has to start. Try some younger legs like daly. Could Cooke play centre back?

    Thompson finnerty tierney are performing. Comer off the bench is great option. They started the league well but finished badly. Change up needed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 646 ✭✭✭Avon8


    Obviously holding it for 6m is a stretch, I'm just using that as an example. If youve two fairly even teams then a 1 point lead over 70 is a big advantage. We probably all, maybe wrongly thought Galway had the advantage over Mayo for example. The handicap there in the end over 70m was still only 2. Leaving yourself a point down to any competent team with 6 minutes less means a loss more often than not was my point

    Tyrone didn't hold possession for all that period, they won 3 kickouts on a row. We had the momentum but still given how the game had gone we could say we were not more than 50/50 to win any further kickouts. They (Derry) indeed won 3 from that point and held the ball for long periods

    I generally agree with your posts fwiw



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,336 ✭✭✭obi604


    many tickets floating around for the Leinster final on Sunday?
    I presume it will be quiet enough.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,138 ✭✭✭I see sheep


    Plenty of tickets on the Ticketmaster site still yeah.

    I'd say Kildare will bring more supporters than Kilkenny?

    I'm toying with the idea of going but probably won't.

    "a terrible war imposed by the provisional IRA"

    Our West Brit Taoiseach



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,407 ✭✭✭SqueakyKneecap


    Even with 20k free juvenile tickets it's a bad sign when uppers are still closed on a Thursday morning. They do have Hill open but I doubt that fills anyways.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,336 ✭✭✭obi604




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