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Things In Football That Grind Your Gears

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,130 ✭✭✭jacool


    This rule/law about advantage, where players get away with bookings that they actually deserve.

    The referee can wait a few seconds to allow a possible advantage to develop, and if the non-offending team does not benefit and gains no advantage, the free kick can be given for the original offence. However, the non-offending team should not be given two chances to benefit. For instance, if a player is fouled, recovers, has a shot at goal and fails to score, the referee cannot go back and give a free kick for the original offence.

    If the referee plays the advantage following an offence that would have resulted in a red or yellow card being shown, the card must be shown the next time the game stops. However:

    • if the offence was denying an obvious goal-scoring opportunity, a yellow card is shown instead of a red card, as playing the advantage allowed the attack to continue
    • if the offence was stopping or interfering with a promising attack, no card is shown as playing the advantage allowed the attack to continue

    Personally, I think its ridiculous. Wonder what would happen if a team stopped playing and pointed to the foul?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,876 ✭✭✭Pauliedragon


    I do agree with you regarding scheduling matches at 3pm. It's not too hard to go away from 3pm Saturdays. These days you have matches from Fri night all the way through to Monday nights some weeks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,022 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    It's a relic from the early to mid 1900's when British workers in the cities would work full day Monday to Friday and half day Saturday with Sunday off

    So Saturday lunchtime was the start of their weekend, their "Friday night"

    So they'd have the few bob in their pocket and head off to the match with the lads

    I get that people are nostalgic for that, but they talk as if it's some holy period of deep reverence that can't possibly be moved

    The default should be that you allow as many fans to watch their team play as possible. Any rule that results in people not having a legal way to watch their favourite team play at the weekend is not fit for purpose in my book



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,341 ✭✭✭IncognitoMan


    I don't like Saturday 3pm. It's my least favourite of the possible kick off times. Followed closely by the early Saturday kick off.

    Saturday is the day I do jobs or go places I couldn't during the week due to work. Having Utd play in the middle of that day is a pain in the arse.

    Late Sunday evening is my personal favourite kick off time. It's rare but it's ideal. End the weekend watching the football and enjoying the highlights of other games from the weekend after.

    Sunday games in general are just better.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,138 ✭✭✭✭chopperbyrne


    Watching United on a 16:30 kick-off on a Sunday might suit those in their armchairs, but is awful for travelling Brighton or Bournemouth fans.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,341 ✭✭✭IncognitoMan


    Absolutely, if you have to travel a long way late at night it sucks. It's the reason the English love the traditional 3pm kick off.

    Don't start travelling too early in the morning and not back crazy late either.

    But they can't have it both ways. Either the blackout goes or the 3pm kickoff for PL games will. I wouldn't be too sad to see the back of 3pm games on a Saturday.

    Especially if the PL goes the way of an on demand subscription service down the line.

    You can only get 76k people inside Old Trafford and a lot more than 76k people want to see Utd play each week for example. Same with Liverpool, Arsenal etc..

    Even when I do go to games I hate the 3pm kick off



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭crossman47


    Its been mentioned before but penalties when a forward falls over a goalie who is not trying to bring him down are ridiculous. Brentford got one last night v Newcastle.

    The "cobing back from offside" ruke is also in the news again. A player who was in an offside position but who is onside when the ball is played should not be penalised.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,662 ✭✭✭The Davestator


    Fans calling one or more of their players a 'generational talent' or 'generational' is extremely cringe. One club fan base in particular is more guilty than most



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 20,248 ✭✭✭✭y0ssar1an22


    probably trying to create a legacy.

    speaking of which, how does kompany have a statue? bizzare.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,707 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    The incessant betting ads during games



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 544 ✭✭✭New Scottman


    Fans throwing bananas at black players.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,022 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    Quoting player wages as being weekly e.g. 100k a week

    Wheras he's paid monthly and contract would be annual

    Any salaried employee would quote their own wages as annually. After that they'd be able to tell you what they take home per month. Nobody says "I'm on €xxx a week"

    It's only really done in Ireland and UK a relic of the times when everybody was getting a weekly paycheque whether a pro soccer player or working in a factory. Quoting it like that is understandable to the common man.....back in the day

    These days? Just give the annual figure not weekly! Every other sport manages to talk like this.

    Knowing someone is on €10 million a year is a much smarter way to think about the burden on the club



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,486 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    DDunno , when i hear Casemiro is on 350k per week, I understand that he is a burden on Man Utd.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,130 ✭✭✭jacool


    Yes, I don't think anyone who was forced to watch that dirge yesterday, would want to know that the Manchester United No. 18 is taking more than that many millions out of their club, annually.

    £18,200,000, which is over €21m !!

    Thing in football that grind my gears - "Its a short career. Players have to earn as much money as they can, when they have the opportunity." - this, spoken by older, bitter ex-players, who didn't get paid €20m a year, and are now forced into saying the same thing every single week, as old, bitter pundits.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,486 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    How Internet feeds on my phone have so many links to articles about something Gary Neville, Jamie Carragher, Micah Richards or Roy Keane said.

    New ones every, single, day.

    Does anyone care what inane drivel comes out of these guys mouths any more?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,746 ✭✭✭Iseedeadpixels




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,270 ✭✭✭dinneenp


    1000% this. I wonder does the media think it's slightly obsene if they mention annual salary instead?



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    It's part of the 24/7 news cycle.

    When there is no real "news" as such the broadcasters have to revert to what they actually broadcast as being "news".

    I suppose it's fair enough in a sense.

    For example if there is a controversial incident in a game then the pundits will talk about it at half time or after the game and give their opinion etc

    But if fyou happened to miss that show or whatever you get the chance to find out what was said later.

    And before anyone chimes in with "I don't listen to pundits etc", plenty of people obviously do, otherwise they would not be there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,130 ✭✭✭jacool


    Gianni Infantino.

    A myriad of reasons, but the latest, a desperate attempt to ensure that Ronaldo appears at the summer tournament.

    Also, related, the fact that FIFA are trying to link the purchase of WC2026 tickets to this ridiculous competition.

    And, for the hat trick, rumours of dynamic pricing being introduced for WC2026 tickets sales.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,022 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    Don't forget how they bent the rules and created a ridiculous qualification scenario so Messi could play in it



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,876 ✭✭✭Pauliedragon


    It screams of desperation from Infantino. Plans for this WCC clearly are not going to plan.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,409 ✭✭✭scottser


    Tragedy chanting.

    FIFA's geopolitical shenanigans generally and particularly their refusal to represent fan concerns and views.

    The modern offside rule, especially giving an offside for no discernable advantage in real time such as an elbow being in an offside position. I also hate ARs letting play run and then flagging offside.

    Arsene Wenger.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,876 ✭✭✭Pauliedragon


    Tragedy chanting is a topic that will probably ratchet up to the Liverpool fans next season after yesterday's incident. The PL really need to nip that in the bud very quickly if it does start to happen.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,409 ✭✭✭scottser


    It's a fukn scourge on the game. It's not just the PL and the clubs who need to weed it out, it's the supporters and the fan clubs need to step up too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,876 ✭✭✭Pauliedragon


    This is probably the lowest thing I've ever seen at a match. This poor excuse of a human should've done time. How anyone can be that sick is beyond me.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/bradley-lowery-football-sunderland-sentencing-b2449082.html#:~:text=Bradley%2C%20a%20mascot%20at%20his,illness%20aged%20six%20in%202017.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,778 ✭✭✭Ottoman_1000


    Is there something inherently wrong with football fans? Like what possess a person to sign and chant about the deaths of fellow human-beings??



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I think there is.

    No sport anywhere attracts such a rabble of a fan base.

    I'd like to call them all knuckle dragging Neanderthals but I'm aware that there are normal people that go to soccer games as well.

    In no other sports do fans have to get police escorts to the ground, in no other sports are a section of the crowd held back after the game so they won't interact with opposition fans.

    In no other sports will people pay money to attend and instead of watching the game spent the whole time roaring abuse and the opposition fans.

    And then there is tragedy chanting.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,022 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    I fully expect someone to correct me or vehemently disagree on this, but I've noticed some United fans recently say "up the reds", even on this forum and surely that's a new thing? Grinds my gears when I see it.

    I've always known United as the Red Devils [insert mitchell & Webb sketch: are we the baddies] and Liverpool are the Reds and I've always associated Up the Reds as a Liverpool saying

    Am I wrong in getting annoyed at hearing it from United fans? It just sounds so odd, like if I went and started saying GGL Glory Glory Liverpool or something.

    To me it seems like they're trying to appropriate a nickname and a phrase "Up the Reds" that we've been using for years, and it's bizarre that it's not just a phrase from a random team, it's one from their closest rivals

    Does anyone hear Up the Reds and think United as default? Is it just me who gets annoyed because they think it's a Liverpool phrase?

    It'll be Let's Go Redmen and Redmen TV from them next



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,418 ✭✭✭Yeah Right


    They've been plenty guilty of it themselves over the years. Loads of evidence of 'pool fans shouting "Munich….Munich" and singing "who's that dying on the runway" at Utd fans for decades at this stage. Any reason you're calling for it to be nipped in the bud now that it affects one team in particular?

    Even their official Twitter account has been guilty of it.

    What grinds my gears:

    "he got the ball"………………….means absolutely nothing if he also fouled the player. Getting the ball isn't licence to then go through someone.

    'Experts' who haven't a clue about the laws of the game. 90%+ of football fans don't know the correct law regarding offside, including here on boards…….here's a test………finish this sentence………….."A player is in an offside position if any part of the head, body or feet is in the opponents’ half and nearer to the opponents’ goal line than the ________ opponent".

    If you think the correct answer is last, you're wrong.

    The amount of foul throws and how unenforced they are. Every game these days has at least one. At least. I haven't seen a foul throw given in about 10 years.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 174 ✭✭EmergencyExit


    Goalkeepers who come for an easy cross or shot, catch the ball and then proceed to dive on the ground to waste time. This could be removed from the game instantly by referee's issuing yellow cards for first time offence in game. Drives me wild.



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