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Sales people calling to your door

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,583 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Exact same thing happened to me last week.

    Except they were wearing baseball caps.



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 14,110 Mod ✭✭✭✭JupiterKid


    I could not agree more.

    An atomised, selfish, disconnected society where people are more lonely than ever before as community - and family - fade away.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,483 ✭✭✭Royale with Cheese


    I had an Energia guy call to the door last night while I was in the middle of making dinner. Politely said no thanks, we're under contract with someone else untill August and I'm in the middle of making dinner here. Was expecting him to say no worries and fúck off at this point but he keeps at it, telling me I can break my contract. I am clearly not interested, you're wasting your own time and my pasta is probably burning at this point. Had to be a bit more forceful next time and close the door before he had a chance to say anything else.

    Wasn't the whole point of the Wolf of Wall Street sell me this pen test to figure out if the customer actually wants/needs a pen first and if they don't then stop wasting your time and go find someone who does?



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Speaking for myself, I open the door to family and neighbours, though they usually do me the courtesy of checking first with a text, to see if it's a convenient time to call.

    It's the unsolicited and uninvited door-to-door salespeople or randoms I don't bother with. I'm not looking to make friends or "community" out of these people! 🙄

    As for car trouble? In 2025, that's what the AA is for!

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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I wonder did they sign up for the "great deal" electricity package?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 444 ✭✭Charlo30


    Once you say no thanks, just close the door. Keeping it open is an invitation for them to keep going



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,483 ✭✭✭Royale with Cheese


    I'd have been firmly in the just not open your door to randomers camp previously but I now live about 50 metres away from my parents and half the time when the doorbell rings it's one of them just dropping in for something.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,970 ✭✭✭BrianD3


    This is true - but are Phonewatch salesmen and travelling scammers a positive thing for the community? If anything they are signs of our selfish, disconnected society.

    It's not like 50 years ago where you might get a local person calling to sell farm produce, those days ae long gone. Now, one of the things that we are lacking is a community spirit to look out for people who will be preyed on by manipulators.

    A lonely person is at home and the doorbell rings, they answer it, desperate for some human interaction. The caller is a friendly man who is "in the area" and has some "tarmac left over from working for the Council". They'll do them a great deal and will even drive them to the bank to withdraw cash, how lovely!



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    And worse it gets.

    Family and neighbors are only welcome as long as they let you know first.

    And getting back to the car trouble, a person might have the most gold plated insurance policy, but when you are passing them on the side of the road and you see they are clearly broken down, you don't know what they have.

    If you stop and offer help and they tell you that a chauffeur is coming to collect them and the car is being picked up by helicopter and dropped to the most expensive garage in the land, so what, they're fine.

    But if you stop and offer help and they tell you they could do with a lift to the nearest garage, or they could do with using your phone because theirs is almost out of battery, then you are a lifesaver.

    But no, keep driving, because they probably have AA in 2025, or they are out to scam you.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,416 ✭✭✭✭elperello




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,360 ✭✭✭ebbsy


    One winter I came home from work at about 8pm.

    There was a salesman standing there in the dark in the garden asking for me to sign up.

    The thing is, I am already subscribed to that company ??



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,896 ✭✭✭SupaCat95


    Well funny you should mention that. One morning at 11 am I am off night shift (12 hours 8pm-8am) after doing 60 hours that week and I was unshaved and fairly raggy looking. just getting my head down to sleep when someone rings my door bell at 11am. I was not best pleased but still had to check. Two nice young ladies well dressed were there at my door with me in my boxer shorts and dressing gown (NOT House Coat!!!!). I entertained the small talk much longer than I imagine most people would and then decided, nay insisted they come in. after much verbal resistance, they managed to get away and I never saw a current member of the Jehovahs witnesses again. Now my good friend Julian was brought up in the Jehovahs Witness community but that is a story for another.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Yep, letting people know in advance they you're planning on calling to their home is called having some manners. Maybe your generation simply doesn't have any?

    Also people work from home now. Callers dropping by uninvited and unannounced is not acceptable. You wouldn't drop by someone's workplace and expect them to entertain you (or maybe you would?)

    Nope, not stopping for a stranger on the side of the road either. If they're careless enough to have (a) a phone out of charge, (despite most modern cars have charging ports nowadays) (b) no powerbank as a backup and (c) no roadside rescue on their insurance policy - then they can walk to the nearest garage.



  • Posts: 697 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I used to work in customer service and we had to sort out cock-ups by door-to-door reps. They're not employees of the company whose product they're selling, so sometimes they're only getting commission (or minimum wage plus commission in the better situations) and are therefore desperate for a sale. It's a terrible job, not for the long haul (the very short haul I've no doubt) and they're not gonna care about rules if they're just doing it for a couple of months/few weeks. If there's a complaint about their manner, what can be done? It's not like there's a recording.

    I don't really blame the reps - I just don't understand why companies use this system. It annoys people and I can't see it having much of a success rate. There are also the risks of mess-ups or elderly people feeling intimidated.

    But I think some residents should grow a pair too. Just say "not interested" and close the door. It's abrupt and curt but it's not abusive.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Honestly I think that attitude sucks.

    I hope for your sake that if you find yourself in some sort of bother you come across people with a better attitude than your own.



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  • Site Banned Posts: 1,745 ✭✭✭Raichų


    Funny you mention fixing cock ups- because things like that I often encounter also. That is current, past & non customers explaining their frustration that customer service didn’t rectify an issue or they spoke rudely to them etc.

    Point I’m making is it’s not door to door reps making customer care miserable it’s bad agents doing a bad job.



  • Posts: 697 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I know, but the conditions of some field sales jobs are so awful that the agents are more likely to mess up out of desperation for a sale, or just not caring anymore and quitting. I blame the crapness of the job/company for that though - not the agents.

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  • Site Banned Posts: 1,745 ✭✭✭Raichų


    I think some blame lies either side- thankfully the company I work for pays you a salary one way or another. No sales for an extended period is another problem though which will soon see you finding another job; about as quick as if you were lying to customers!!

    I avoid the likes of PhoneWatch because they are taken the piss in terms of conditions for the agents. You’re dropped into your area by a manager carpooling a few of ya; you only get paid commission and you’re collected at the end of the day by the aforementioned manager.

    Total aside but a funny story- one of those managers was inclined to take a wee siesta for himself during lunch. Must have been wrecked cos he slept for a solid 8 hours til 11pm that night. Woke up to 100’s of missed calls from his manager, the agents looking for their lift etc. tell ya he woke up to a nightmare that’s for sure.

    Not sure how that never went to rectifying their policies in terms of agents being dropped off and collected but alas.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,645 ✭✭✭tinytobe


    Door to door sales is a past concept out of the US, from the 1940ies or 50ies. They expect that the husband is out at work, and wife at home, and they can sell something or anything to the wife.

    Today most of them are even more scams. Also often the job is done by foreigners who can't get any other form of work.

    Mostly it's about insurance, electricity and phone and internet contracts.

    Sometimes it's Jehovah Whitnesses.

    If the latter, I often involve them in a discussion and tell them how rediculous their religion is.



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    The opening up of the utilities market has made door to door selling still a viable sales tool.

    A lot of providers out there in a world where people are encouraged to switch when they get out of contract.

    I would not call the selling door to door of utilities scams, they are legitimate products, it's up to the potential buyer to decide if they are worth buying.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    There are plenty of legitimate price comparison websites for anyone looking for deals on their utilities and insurance.

    No need for anyone to call to your door, disrupting your day or interrupting your work, and taking up your time.

    Same goes for charities, and the "gutter cleaning" type scammers (of which I've run a few from the door). Now I just don't answer, unless its someone I'm expecting.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,467 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    And a hundred lonely housewives clutch empty milk bottles… door to door salesmen to their hearts…

    Husband not at home, chance for a bit of "how's your father" if 1970s sitcoms anything to go by :)

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    No need for anyone to call to your door, disrupting your day or interrupting your work, and taking up your time.

    So why do companies still use it?

    It must have some return on investment to be reatined in this day and age.

    And there must be a lot of companies doing it based on people here telling us they are plagued by door to door sales every hour of the day.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,882 ✭✭✭blackwhite


    Companies do it because it's a way of pressurising people into signing up to a service in a manner that tries to remove the opportunity for the customer to shop around for better or cheaper alternatives.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,467 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    And there's no recording of what's been said on the doorstep.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,583 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Company would be foolish to rely on that given the prevalence of video doorbells.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,645 ✭✭✭tinytobe


    Sales management probably figured that if husband is at work, and wife at home doing housework, there are better chances of closing a sale. That was 1950ies and 1960ies America, good jobs, good economy affordable housing, husband worked and supported the whole family, wife could afford to stay home… Vacuum cleaner sales was like that.

    Now mostly couples both have jobs, so the door to door salesman is more likely to encounter both partners, not just one. So it's more difficult.

    And then there is the issue for the door to door salesman, how realistic the sales target is? I would presume it's commission only sales, and also hugely competitive.

    Realistically it's not a real career.



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