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What beer are we drinking this week? Episode 3

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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 3,493 Mod ✭✭✭✭Black Sheep


    Got a can of Never Drinking Again 0.5% IPA from Whiplash.... Last one in stock in Martins.

    I was impressed at how good it is, has the same hop taste, odour and colouring as many of their other beers.

    Best low alcohol beer of 2025 for me, worth paying a wee premium for.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,125 ✭✭✭Pen Rua


    Seconded. I was thoroughly impressed. I have a bottle of Lucky Saint for some stage this weekend also.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,317 ✭✭✭brokenbad


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    Big fan of Guinness West Indies Porter, but since the new year it has disappeared from all the off licences where i live that stocked it. Hopefully it's just a supply issue and will be back on the shelves soon.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 3,493 Mod ✭✭✭✭Black Sheep


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    Had a pint of Kinnegar Black Bunny on tap.

    It's a nitrogenated black lager on tap, and pours pitch black, retaining a very creamy head. I found that the visual cues are so strong, it was hard to actually taste it with 'lager' in mind. My brain was saying 'stout'.

    I was trying to detect lager-like qualities, but if I'm honest, I'm not sure I could. Pleasant, though.

    Found it a little unusual, but a quick google tells me that nitro black lager is definitely a thing and has been done by others.

    I understand the canned version is carbonated, not nitro, and presumably that's like what I think of as schwarzbier.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,801 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    First pub: I was looking for a 50cl bottle of Weihenstephaner Vitus, which I think is described as a weizen bock (?), but the barman says "we are running low on all bottles". It is 7.7%, and was 7.50 when I bought it a few weeks before.

    Instead, he offers me a 50cl bottle of Weissenohe Bonator.

    I don't know much about this brewery, does it have widespread distribution in Ireland?

    This turns out to be, I think, a doppel bock? It cost 8.50, and is 8%. I feel it's not as good as the Weihenstephaner.

    Second pub: Crann Beatha barrel-aged stout - this is some drink.

    There is a real kick, you can really taste the whiskey.

    The price was 6.80, for I think either 33cl or 2/3 of a pint, at a very high ABV, I think 10%



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,433 ✭✭✭Citizen  Six


    Where'd you have the Crann Beatha? I had it years ago, in the Black Sheep, on cask.

    Brehon make some of the best stouts you can get here. Really good quality.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69 ✭✭EthelMercaptan


    I've ordered Weissenohe Bonator from Martins off licence before, seen it in a few other places on occasion - very good doppelbock and for me it's on a par with Vitus.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,801 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    Bierhaus pub, Henry street, Galway city centre.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,029 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,793 ✭✭✭MoodeRator


    First time caller to the thread, but was hoping someone might know if there is anywhere in Ireland to order Fullers ESB from please?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 39,822 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Haven't seen it in my local Dunnes either, but the shelf edge label is still there.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,122 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    I don't think Fuller's is imported into Ireland any more. Haven't seen any in years.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69 ✭✭EthelMercaptan


    If you're anywhere near the north, Tesco occasionally stock Fullers ESB (lovely drop!) and/or you could probably order for collection through off licences there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,793 ✭✭✭MoodeRator


    i was afraid that would be the answer. I know my local off license used to get it from an importer down in Cork i think. I would even drive up north if I was certain of availability



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 5,921 Mod ✭✭✭✭irish_goat


    I'll check in Tesco up north at the weekend, but fairly certain it's available in Sainsburys too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 386 ✭✭toffeeshel


    According to Sainsbury’s website they stock it. £2.75 or 4 for £7 with a Nectar card



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 432 ✭✭Shank Williams


    I’ve been on this buzz for last 2-3 years- craft doesn’t do much for me any more - was chasing the first high I got years ago from old full sail/foam and fury where o got an amazing bitter/dry taste but never really found it again and craft generally doesn’t do wonders for the stomach/head next day.

    Same with Belgians after a while though generally a bit more refined then craft


    wheras you can do 3 German lagers of an evening, have a nice buzz and not suffer much the next day


    do find a lot of the stuff on shelves is close to expiry- my local centra has augustinier helped but all expires end of this month whereas the a paulaner weissbier is always generally fresh enough



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,793 ✭✭✭MoodeRator


    Thanks very much for the info regards up North. I only ever go Enniskillen, and have never seen ESB in either ASDA or Tesco there. But hopefully things may have changed now?



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 3,493 Mod ✭✭✭✭Black Sheep


    I don't have a strong view on this idea that craft beer (let's say Irish craft beers) are more hangover-inducing than imported German beers. Certainly heard it a few times.

    From personal experience, I suppose that I've ended up hungover by drinking both, and I'm struggle to say that any difference wasn't down to the volume of beer consumed on a given evening, and the alcohol content by volume.

    I'm not saying it's true of you, but a lot of people do seem to fail to struggle to account for ABV. They'll drink 3 pints of Heineken at a 4.3% ABV, and the next day they are "totally fine"…. Then if they drink 3 pints of Kinnegar Scraggy Bay the next time, they report they're "not great" the next day, compared to the Heineken, and they conclude that craft beer gives you feeling worse. …Except the Scraggy Bay is 5.3% ABV, which is a decent uplift in alcohol content.

    Bit of a side story, but reminds me of something that happened at Harry Byrnes, Clontarf, when they introduced craft taps. They had 8 Degrees Full Irish on top at one stage, and one of the oul lads tried it, decided he liked it, and had his usual number of pints. Except no one told him it was 6% ABV, and he ended up practically falling off his chair.

    In the case Irish craft beer and German imported beer, I think if I drank an equal volume of each, I'd expect the different in hangover to not be significantly different, if I controlled for ABV.

    But equalising for ABV, could there be anything else that accounts for why one kind of beer versus another might result in a worse hangover?

    I think, potentially, it could be related to the degree to which a given drink is inflammatory for you. All alcohol can cause systemic inflammation but as far as I gather, they're not all equal, and it's individual. Some types of alcohol, like red wine, have modest anti-oxidant effects that theoretically should reduce inflammation, but the reality is that it's individual, and some people aren't tolerant of red wine in particular, if they're histamine intolerant. The issue of gluten in alcohol is another one that's potentially very significant, but comes down to individual tolerance again… I don't generally have any kind of negative reaction to alcohol made with grain, barley etc. but there are people who are going to have better experiences with gluten-free options.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 432 ✭✭Shank Williams


    I will say I’m drinking paulaner mainly which is 5.5% v scraggys 5.3% and I definetly notice a difference in energy and headache next day if I drink 3 scraggy v 3 paulaner - feel worse after scraggy-and I find kinnegar by far the best of Irish craft in terms of quality



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 3,493 Mod ✭✭✭✭Black Sheep


    That's interesting. As you note, not much discrepancy in ABV there, they're more or less like-for-like.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69 ✭✭EthelMercaptan


    Sulphites in the sterilisation process and mineral content in the source water play a part for me at least - I get a mild hayfever-like reaction if the residual of the former is too high (with 5-10% of canned craft beers I lose a lot of the flavour as I'm sneezing away) and get reflux if the sulphate content is too high in the latter - which some might associate with a hangover. German lager, particularly the Munich brews, seems to have very clean water supplies and reliable production processes - I have never experienced an issue with them.

    Another factor is the present of adjuncts or higher alcohols by design (eg. barrel-aged stouts) - these can also have unpleasant side-effects such as headaches or stomach upset depending on the person.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 432 ✭✭Shank Williams


    yeah that tracks with me re barrel aged stouts



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,125 ✭✭✭Pen Rua


    The Whiplash & Verdant and Whiplash & Garage duo was good. Firmly in Whiplash's wheelhouse of hazy pale ales / IPAs.

    Garage themselves had two NZ hops focused beers (a pils & a session IPA). They were fine to me, but reasonably forgettable.

    I picked up some of the Dew Drop beers for the next weekend. Competitively priced in Bradley's @ €3.50, which is on par for most core range beers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,029 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


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    A lovely straight up Pale ale !



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,122 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    We'll take your word for it, but your camera's more interested in the barman.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,029 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 39,822 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Simulation of what happens to the eyesight after a few of them?

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,029 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    No doubt. But that was my first, I'm afraid to say.

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    Although, admittedly, after this!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 39,822 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


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    cool shirt btw 😃

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



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