I'm Constantly Going to Funerals Lately

ArcadiaJunction · 11-10-2024 11:39AM #1

I can't beleive the numbers of people I know who have died in the last year and especially since the summer. All age groups and cancers all over the place. You have wonder if Putin has dropped a weapon on us to do it. It is really is astounding the numbers just dying now.

zell12 · 11-10-2024 11:43AM

Hi Joe!

yagan · 11-10-2024 11:44AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058373814/im-constantly-going-to-funerals-lately

I don't know what age you are but when you get to a certain stage RIP.IE is the new social media.

For what it's worth an undertaker friend told me that he now has a keep a good stock of coffins for obese customers, who generally die a lot younger than their non obese cohorts.

Can't talk about though or we'll be called fat shamers.

L1011 · 11-10-2024 11:45AM

You're getting old.

Cluedo Monopoly · 11-10-2024 11:46AM

Its the crap food and pollution (food sources, air, water etc). Processed food is killing us and nobody really talking about it

11-10-2024 11:54AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122707974#Comment_122707974

Ah yes, we should go back to the 50s where none of that stuff existed.

Of course average life expectancy back then was around 65 years, compared to the current value of 82.

Average life expectancy has increased every year for the past 54 years.

11-10-2024 12:09PM

It goes like this, invite to debs next its wedding invitations then baby naming christening things, then anniversaries, but as time goes along it's more and more funeral your going to its the way of life.

who what when · 11-10-2024 12:28PM

High rates of infant mortality really drove down average life expectancy years ago.

There's an epidemic of chronic illness due to the 'modern lifestyle' on the horizon and nobody is talking about it!

Esel · 11-10-2024 12:29PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122707963#Comment_122707963

My father used to say:

"You see plenty of fat men and plenty of old men, but you don't see plenty of fat old men. "

banie01 · 11-10-2024 12:44PM

My 1st wife died suddenly at 26, granted it was 2007 and long before peak anti-vax but, Putin was in power!

Was it him all along 🤨

My 2nd wife was diagnosed with cancer in 2022 and my 35y.o brother dropped dead in 2023 and sure my own health has been fúcked since 2012 are you telling me that it was Putin all along?

Rather than a preponderance of risk factors and falling victim to having an epic youth?

11-10-2024 12:48PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122708199#Comment_122708199

Crikey Banie, I'm very sorry to read it. It's an awful lot of tragedy.

11-10-2024 12:55PM

Why are people saying we can't or don't talk about obesity and other unhealthy lifestyles? People talk about these all the time.

2024 has been a bizarrely tragic year going by my observations too. It's not "getting old" - these are people who have become ill/died far too early. My parents are 77 and 78 - even they say this year has been freakish. Among people I know of, there have been deaths from accidents, suicides, a cancer death very soon after diagnosis, a sudden death due to an underlying heart condition, an aggressive cancer diagnosis (thankfully she's doing better now but it was scary) and heart trouble becoming near death (thankfully he got a transplant). The oldest who died was 62 (cancer) and the youngest: 28 (car accident). 🥺

banie01 · 11-10-2024 12:56PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122708219#Comment_122708219

Thank you, I appreciate the sentiment I really do. All the losses provided in my post are true but, it's also a little effort at reductio and absurdum on my part. The OPs logic is absurd and my response to it is an effort to be too.

In real terms the death rate in Ireland is in its normal range. Whereas life expectancy averages used to be thrown off by high infant mortality as well as old age. We now live in one of the lowest infant mortality rate countries in the world. So with very few infants & young people dying? The 1st encounter many have with death outside their immediate family is the contemporary aged person who falls victim to damned statistics.

When you hit your 40s? There will be a spike in the number of deaths and serious illnesses affecting people our age. The OP is ascribing that to Putin's nefarious actions, it's bollox.

yagan · 11-10-2024 12:57PM

On the life expectancy thing if I remember rightly those born between the 30s and 70s benefitted most from the green revolution and vaccines.

However in the US bad diet and drug overuse is starting to drive down life expectancy again.

When my mum was fading away in the nursing home the head nurse said her generation are physically tough from cycling to school and work, whereas those in the decades after who got used to the car aren't as resilient to illness and tend to die younger and quicker.

I think it's inevitable that we'll see a peak in life expectancy here before a drop too.

dxhound2005 · 11-10-2024 01:02PM

I hope the medical profession, dieticians and statisticians are reading this thread. So much good information they never knew about.

Rocket_GD · 11-10-2024 01:05PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122708265#Comment_122708265

It's been a bizarrely tragic year for you personally, not an outlier by any statistics so far.

I can turn around and say it has been a year completely free of any tragic deaths or health issues going by my observations which balances yours out.

We're back to this year not being an outlier at all, just unfortunately a bad one for you and the people you know.

CliffHangeroner · 11-10-2024 01:08PM

Putin is an arsehole but the media have done a serious job on people's minds about Russia at this stage. I'm just waiting for him to be blamed on 9/11 next or maybe even the crusades.

dxhound2005 · 11-10-2024 01:13PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122708353#Comment_122708353

From the Presbyterian Outlook May 2022.

The Russian invasion of Ukraine is more than political, it’s a religious crusade. As U.S. intelligence officials try to understand Vladimir Putin’s mindset, they would do well to take seriously his language around the “sacredness” of the Ukrainian territory for Russia. He is older, isolated, and thinking about his legacy. He wants to be eternally revered by the people of Russia, and he sees this crusade into Ukraine as his way to rebuild the historic Russian Empire.

Cluedo Monopoly · 11-10-2024 01:15PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122708010#Comment_122708010

It's not really about your lifespan.

The important metric is your health span.

Many people live well into their 80s with many years of poor health.

artanevilla · 11-10-2024 01:17PM

The older you get the more people you know and statistically the more people will die, it's an absolute certainty.

Mrs OBumble · 11-10-2024 01:21PM

And of course there's a new multi-systemic virus in the human population now, too, which we didn't have 5 years ago.

it will take a few years for the epidemiologists to really get a handle of how incremental damage from multiple infections is - or isn't - affecting the population overall.

But I'm aware of a few employers who are tracking higher sick leave rates now.

dxhound2005 · 11-10-2024 01:26PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122708443#Comment_122708443

How did you find out about those employers? It sounds like the sort of data that should not be shared with anyone outside their HR.

banie01 · 11-10-2024 01:31PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122708479#Comment_122708479

Quite common for organisations to share anonymized attendance and sick rate data. In particular MNC and large employers would subscribe to data feeds and HR journals that gather and share such data to allow for accurate basis for work force planning and so on.

Rocket_GD · 11-10-2024 01:34PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122708479#Comment_122708479

They didn't just some anecdotal nonsense.

Even if it were true, taking sick days is encouraged more in this day and age, whether it's a mental health day or just office culture that you don't go in when you're not feeling well spreading your cold around the office.

JupiterKid · 11-10-2024 02:11PM

It's been a very bad year of loss for me too. My dear older sister died suddenly aged only 54 at the end of June, my partner lost his cousin aged 62 in February and I can count 12 deaths of wider friends of the family - granted most of these were old age. Both my own parents are now gone a long time - but many of my childhood friends are now losing their parents. We are now all middle-aged (I'm 49) , and the parents are pretty much now all close to or at the end of their lives.

2024 is a year my partner and I want to see the back of due to the personal losses.

Yes, as you get older, more and more funerals happen.

yagan · 11-10-2024 02:15PM

When you bury your last parent you walk away from the grave knowing you're now on the front line.

Patrick2010 · 11-10-2024 02:16PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058373814/im-constantly-going-to-funerals-lately

Hope you don't know me

Viscount Aggro · 11-10-2024 02:21PM

Was at a funeral the other day... Standing outside the church... Some prick asked me ... "Was it anything serious?"

KaneToad · 11-10-2024 02:26PM

As my father would say, "there's people dying today that never died before".

His other funerial quip is about how he'd like to be buried, it's a bit more coarse than the one above, suffice to say the quip involves the name Bibi Baskin.

thereiver · 11-10-2024 03:15PM

When you are over 50 ,if you have alot of friends people will start dying of various illness,s , of cancer or other disease,s ,your parents will die.your friends parents will die.

this meme is relevant

https://www.thefader.com/2024/08/21/nobody-will-remember-your-workplace-burnout

maybe gen z will live a few years longer they use less drugs on average drink less maybe cos they have to pay a ridiculous proprtion of their wages in rent.And they are more health conscious.

theres an advantage to just having a small circle of friends

Strumms · 11-10-2024 03:54PM

if you ever look at rip.ie, it’s always quite sobering to see how many younger people that are dying.

My parents who are at a reasonably advanced age could between them go to a funeral a month but when I’m looking up mass and removal times for them the number of teens and people too 18-50 who are dying. Sobering…cancer and sudden deaths, heart attacks, brain aneurysms or other neurological conditions. According to the WHO incidences Parkinson’s disease and dementia and strokes have almost doubled over the last 30 years. Real increase in neuro issues / conditions.

I'm Constantly Going to Funerals Lately

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