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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,721 ✭✭✭yllw.ldbttr


    I have two of these but looking to add a third - can anyone recommend a good source with reasonable prices?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28 ronoc101


    Any chance someone close to Dublin has a USB to RJ45 RS485 cable I can borrow ?

    Having battname-fail issues and have been sent F/W update tool but don't fancy waiting on them to send the cable.


    TIA.



  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 8,316 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jonathan




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28 ronoc101




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 794 ✭✭✭hick


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    ok team!

    I’ve bit off more than I can chew!

    Went to add a new battery and well after a fairly hefty heave into the attic, all 60kg!! I plugged all in and all batts showed me the red ring!

    but worse I put everything back to exactly the way it was with 2 batteries and fu*k sake the original 2 continued with the red ring. I swear this line being in old XBox territory.

    Any tips please!!!



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  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 8,316 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jonathan


    What can you see on the Solis inverter? Can the inverter see the SOC?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 10,714 ✭✭✭✭con747


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,941 ✭✭✭✭Ha Long Bay


    Also when you reverted to the original setup did you restart both batteries by pulling the DC isolator on top of the units?

    @Jonathan I wonder if something like this could happen connecting a gen 2 battery to existing gen 1 units?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 10,714 ✭✭✭✭con747


    In the previous page it was pointed out that some gen 1 batteries won't work with gen 2 batteries so it could be a cause if the batteries are different generations.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,941 ✭✭✭✭Ha Long Bay


    OP can you compare the details here across the originals and new batteries? Label is on the bottom left.

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  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 8,316 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jonathan


    Yes, sounds very plausible. The whole v1 vs v2 thing isn't very well documented.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,941 ✭✭✭✭Ha Long Bay


    That's an understatement as well as the v0.5 version!

    Hopefully the OP can confirm gen versions which might point towards the source of the issue.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 794 ✭✭✭hick


    thanks everyone for the responses! Much appreciated.
    so it appears that I have 2 x v2 and 1 x v1

    The old config which was working with no errors was a v1 and v2, though there were big issues with the install, which is document further back in this thread

    The old configuration would not work when I removed the new v2

    As of this morning I have the new v2 on its own connected and working.

    the old v2 would not work on its own

    I have not test the new v2 connected to v1 or the v1 on its own.

    saga continues, more testing this afternoon.
    but there’s definitely a problem and it’s likely version related now



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 794 ✭✭✭hick


    so have just spent the last hour trying all configurations

    So neither of the two original batteries, a v1 and v2 will not work on their own

    They will not work together in the original configuration

    Neither will work as slave to the new battery, a v2

    All the works in the new v2 in isolation

    Totally confused and frustrated 😩

    And thumb is sore to boot flipping on the switches on the batteries, isolation switch and inverter with all the restarts.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 10,714 ✭✭✭✭con747


    Maybe try get in touch with Puredrive and give them the batteries codes and see if they can shed any light on a way to configure them if possible?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,941 ✭✭✭✭Ha Long Bay


    Are you terminating the can bus when you are linking them together? Also what type of cable are you using to link them? It's suppose to be a cat5 cable.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 794 ✭✭✭hick


    thanks both


    yes terminator in down port in all instance on the last battery (or solo)

    Used the original cable that worked all along. Also tested with spare solis cables and new CAT 5s
    yes a call to puredrive in the morning for sure



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,941 ✭✭✭✭Ha Long Bay


    When I was talking to them back in Feb they were taking on a service engineer for Ireland so hopefully that has happened. Let us know how you get on.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 794 ✭✭✭hick


    hey folks, minor update. Spoke with Will in puredrive this morning. All very straightforward. Going to schedule an onsite visit, if they can’t sort them and there, they will replace both batteries. Pretty happy with that. He got back on an hour later for solis info and access, was great to see the responsiveness has picked up for sure. But will wait before I start popping the champagne just yet!

    @Ha Long Bay i asked about the dedicated Ireland engineer. He wasn’t sure, so I’d say not yet.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 62 ✭✭Midlakelands


    Just to add to this. I had some issues with my v1 Puredrives probably faulty cell in one of them which caused it to suddenly drop from about 30% to below 15%. Will from support organised an on site visit and when a firmware update didn't work they replaced my batteries with no quibbles. That is why I purchased these in the first place as I wanted that level of support when something goes wrong. Seems to me that Puredrive have definitely improved in this regard.

    Now they are only in since yesterday so hopefully I won't be back with further problems.

    Plus I am presuming they are now v2 but other than checking with puredrive regarding serial numbers I don't know how I can directly check that myself.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,941 ✭✭✭✭Ha Long Bay


    If you see my post about 10 posts up that will show you how to check. Sticker on the left hand side of the battery.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 62 ✭✭Midlakelands


    Yep completely missed that. Thanks I can now see that I'm on the v2 hardware with v3 firmware.

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  • Posts: 0 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Great conversation and very insighful. I have a question:

    If I have a Solis combi invertor and a 5KW PureDrive battery, could I order a different branded battery from China and easily plug-and-play the battery with this existing setup? I'm not locked in to just use PureDrive batteries?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,692 ✭✭✭SD_DRACULA


    You can only use one or the other (technically) because they can't talk to each other.

    Sell the puredrive and get two of the others but DIY battery is the gold standard these days but only if you're handy at the DIY.

    You can build a 15kwh battery for around €1500, all the details are on the battery thread.



  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 8,316 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jonathan


    It seems Puredrive have now rebranded as (or bought a license to use the name) Duracell.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 319 ✭✭RTT


    Hi folks,

    I was having issues with my nearly 3 year old 5kwh Puredrive gen 1 battery which I thought I'd share here. It would get to 48% in the evening ,then suddenly drop to 0% and force charge. I called my installer who told me it needed a firmware update. I contacted Puredrive (Will) and they sent me the cable. Was stung for customs charge of about €5. Tried to do the update but it wouldn't work. Will in Puredrive tried to update the firmware remotely as I allowed him remote access to my laptop..no joy. He told me that my gen 1 battery was faulty, was under warranty and that it would be replaced with a gen 2 battery and they would send a new one. Was afraid I'd be charged customs duty on it as it was being sent from the UK. Anyway found a workaround and it was shipped and fitted by original installer. All working again now.



  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 8,316 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jonathan




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 319 ✭✭RTT


    They shipped it to the installer's supplier up north. The installer collected it, fitted it and took away my old battery. Happy with Puredrive's customer service to be fair.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1 carlick24


    Hi everyone, although I'm based in South Wales, this is the only thread I found online about Puredrive battery issues.

    I've read here that couple of members had their Gen 1 batteries replaced under the warranty by Puredrive because they're not compatible with Gen 2 battery. Sadly, this is not how my support ended up with Puredrive.

    I've had my battery installed in 2022 and I bought another one in June this year. Connected everything up and the Solis inverter would get inconsistent SOC and different discharge rates for both batteries. Contacted Puredrive and after almost a month (!) wait and few chasing up email I've finally had the first reply. Since my first email to Puredrive it is now over 2 months of emailing and the outcome is this: Puredrive is saying that my old battery is Gen 1 and new battery is Gen 2 and they're offering me to have the Gen 1 battery swapped for a refurbished one at a cost of £995 + £150 install fee and taking the old battery away! So I'm paying for a new one and giving the old one back for free.. I've emailed them back asking to explain why this issue is not covered under warranty. Still waiting for a reply… they normally take a week to respond.

    I don't now what to do now. Sell the Gen 1 battery, bite the bullet and get another Gen 2 battery… Or sell them both and go for a more DIY option like Pylontech? I'm really disappointed with all this, as the batteries are marketed as "modular", where in reality they're not, unless you buy them in relatively short space of time to avoid this whole Gen 1-2 issue.



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  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 8,316 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jonathan


    If you're okay with forfeiting the warranty, the cheapest solution might be to use the 32 cells from your existing batteries and use a new BMS (or pair of BMSs) and build your own DIY battery. (I haven't opened my batteries so I don't know what BMS is used internally, but you might be able to buy an OEM BMS to match your V1 or V2 batteries). It defeats the purpose of buying from a brand like Puredrive though, and very disappointing in terms of customer service.



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