Manchester United Thread 25/26 - Teamtalk/Transfers/Gossip Mod Note in OP 26.09.24

Do you not understand how contracts work? Do you not realise that this is not football manager and you can't make a player break a contract just "because". Do you not realise that this is exactly how the club has been operating for the last twenty years? Giving players contracts that are stupid and almost impossible to move them on from because they are being paid too much relative to their contribution to the team.

In what world is a player earning 150k a week to be injured half the time going to agree to leave his contract and go elsewhere where he doesn't earn money if he's injured. Do you not realise how utterly silly that sounds?

And banged in goals for Limerick too 😉

It's obvious…

Sky Sports this morning saying United in talks for DeJong again. £41.5m offer turned down last month and back talking now.

I just don't see the point in this.

We can agree a fee with Barca.

We can agree a wage with his agent.

But Barca are not going to pay him off the difference of his contract. he is due a frankly laughable 75milliion from them over the next TWO years. 700k a week. So not only do you have the fact he loves living in Barcelona and is actually really liked by the fans… you have the 'fact' that if he signed for United on top United wages he'd still be missing out on 36million!

I would be SHOCKED if De Jong went anywhere, cause Barca won't pay him and why should he give it up.

Plus… He's not really a DM. We need a DM.

De Jong is hamstrung by the contract he's on. He'll run down his contract and go on a free in 2 years. There isn't a club in the world who'll pay a third of what he's currently on at barca

The contract lengths are insane, but the wages are not. Palmer is on 120 now, apparently. He'd get double that at United easily. He'd make 150-200 easy at any other top pl side right now too.

The Barca issue is the value of the wages, somehow Chelsea aren't suffering that.

Not once did I say break his contract, if you read back I said sell him? I fully understand how contracts iworks but I’m thinking you’re struggling with what I said! Not once was break the contract said it was SELL HIM

Regarding the stupid contracts, who knows the club and shaw could come to an agreement if it ever comes to that point where he gets some payoff for his deal but not 💯 off the remaining deal

He is but also there is a bit more to it.

Basically when he joined Barca they were strapped for cash (shock).

So FDJ agreed to a contact where his wages were lighter for the first few years but the balance would be covered in the later years.

He was paid a relatively modest wage for years 1 + 2 for a player of his ability to help Barca get around their wage issues with La Liga. Think it might have been as low as 30/40k a week.

So while he might be on 500/600k now it is because he's essentially being paid his wage plus arrears from the club.

I don't think FDJ would expect 600k at his new club. But he's dead right to want what Barca agreed to pay him.

Barca are the **** here

Shaws injury shouldn't force any sudden changes to their transfer plans because Shaw always gets injured. If this injury forces an unplanned panic move, then it would be very poor form from them.

I suspect they've decided to use Shaw when fit, give Amass a bit of experience and to also use Dalot/Mazraoui there when needed.

I would have prioritised a LB this summer myself but it seems well down the list. Shaw getting injured is entirely predictable.

If sourcing an acceptable DM is proving problematic I think the club will hold onto Mc Sauce as while he is limited he has good versatility.

If they then got someone like Berge in in the closing weeks of the Window it would leave us in a relatively good shape midfield.

Then make signing a top DM one of main focuses for next Summer.

We definitely need to sign an experienced LB on loan given all our sicknotes players in that position.It would be unfair to expect Amass to step up this Season.

Realistically speaking we also need an experienced Striker to come in who is willing to have a bit part role to play.Someone along the lines of an Odion Ighalo,who came in and did a decent job amidst the club having poor striker cover.

Calvert Lewin has being mentioned but that’s pure clickbait imo.No way Ineos go for an injury ravaged player like him.

Ugarte is a better fit for us than Berge. Also, PSG are interested in Sancho, and I can't see us having those same conversations with Burnley..