Manchester United Thread 25/26 - Teamtalk/Transfers/Gossip Mod Note in OP 26.09.24

So what?

Their squads didn't need a third of the work ours did?

Any Ugarte deal now needs to come from PSG's desperation to move him. Supposedly we valued him at 40m, I'd either offer a total maximum of 35m if PSG come skulking back to be rid or just leave them stuck with him. No more soft touch.

I'd take Berge over Amrabat who we know offers nothing.

Liverpool need a good few players to push on as their squad is ageing, Arsenal need a proper striker and City need to replace Alvarez, look at Spurs and Newcastle too, nobody is doing mental business yet, we are being priced out of deals what do you expect INEOS to do? Pull transfers out of their arses? We've moved onto Berge so whats the panic?

Seen on Reddit that psg are exploring signing Sancho. I hope we hardball them a bit

I’m aware. I said it before pre-season that it’s going to be disjointed at the start but at the same time, having the players in earlier allows them to gel with less games played than if they were to arrive in the last few days of the window. Zirkzee hasn’t played yet but he’s working with some of the players already and building relationships, that should stand to us at the start of the season for example.

That’s obviously best case scenario stuff and was always unlikely, especially with this new approach of not getting bent over on every deal in and out. So of course we know that there has to be a balance of paying the right amount even if it takes longer or moving on if needs be. I just hope that they do get the top choices on the list and not someone 5th down the line, if financially viable. Even if it means final days of the window movement.

I definitely don’t think the finger should be pointed at anyone until the window is closed.

I don't see how some posters think it's been a good summer so far on transfers. We still have plenty of deadwood.

We arent making top 4, be realistic!

Then INEOS will have failed this summer and season. It is that simple. Top 4 has to be the aim, and not meeting it is failure. You can argue 5th place maybe. our an EL win. But anything less than CL qualification has to be deemed a failure.

You comment on Ratcliffe saying it won't be a quick fix. He also said making the CL is massively important.

You imply making top 4 is unrealistic. What do you think IS realistic?

Whatever about not overhauling City, Arsenal and Liverpool, at what point in the following list of clubs is it unrealistic to be aim to be better than - Villa, Newcastle, Spurs, Chelsea. And then… why?

What's slightly concerning about Berge is that, up to now, he hasnt been on anyone's radar. Now I get that INEOS might have been considering it and keeping it under wraps but for it now to just suddenly come up appears that INEOS had thought the Ugarte signing was an inevitability but PSG are now playing hardball and we're trying to find alternatives at short notice. The Window started well and we may well see lots of movement before the end of the transfer window but its stagnated horribly at the moment. Considering our needs, if this is really INEOS's strategy, its a high risk one. Players need time to bed in once they join a new club. Fulham is less than 2 weeks away. Oh well.

TBH, I just can see justification for saying Villa are that much better than us, going into the summer.

That Villa have improved as (imo) they have, especially with Onana, and gotten further from us is just a failure of United (and good work from Villa). For you to consider finishing above Villa as unrealistic, should be a damning indictment of the work United have done, or what you consider possible in the next 3 weeks.

That United couldn't look at Martinez, Konsa, Torres, Diego, Moreno, Kamara, Luiz, Ramsey, Diaby, Watkins, McGinn as a team that we could look to come out of the summer better than… like, c'mon. Good side, well managed, not unbeatable.

Granted its a marathon not a sprint but that doesnt mean you have to show up to the start line in slippers and pajamas. We arent ready for the season to start.

That's me defending you last week, I have apologised to you before when I got you wrong about the Womens team, I've mentioned that you have good insight into the youth teams and have agreed with you many other times but funny how you only remember my negative posts……

In other news Bayern have agreed a 25+5 deal for Tah but need to sell De Ligt to finance it.

This makes no sense what so ever. One persons opinion is not a "damning indictment of the work United have done". I'm quite happy with the summer so far. Utd have signed one of the most exciting young players in the world, as well as last seasons young player of the year from Serie A. They've show already that they won't be forced to pay crazy transfer fees and a willingness to walk away from deals. They've also show more creativity doing deals than the Glazers/Woodward/Arnold ever did (eg. Greenwood sell on clause, re-negotiating release clauses). So because I'm impressed with the change in Utds transfer operations compared to the Glazer years, using your logic, wouldn't my positive assessment then be a strong endorsement of the work United have done?