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Donald Trump discussion Thread IX (threadbanned users listed in OP)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,232 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    For a billionaire he certainly does seem to have difficulty coming up with money.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,774 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    It just might be that his gifts of persuasion [look into my eyes] are fading with people waking up to the truth.

    Doubtless his lawyers are looking through the laws around political funding to get some way of accepting cash from a source usually disbarred by law from providing same without compromising or putting them at legal risk if some quid pro quo deal was to become public knowledge at some stage should Trump get elected, however much faith a donor could have in Honest Don's word by now.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,289 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    The courts will demand absolute transparency regarding the source of the money and who the principals are.

    Trump is caught between a rock and a hard place here.

    His usual sources of funding can't touch this because of the level of attention it would bring and "normal" sources won't touch it because Trump simply isn't good for the money.

    No matter what he sells he almost certainly won't come up with a half a billion in net profits to cover the costs.

    Most of what he claims to own , he doesn't actually own or it is tied up in agreements that mean he can't sell it.

    He references "40 Wall Street" as one of his major assets , but he doesn't own the building , he owns the ground lease and has to pay rent to the actual owners.

    His entire house of cards is held together with debt and lies and it's all about to collapse around him.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 20,584 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sam Russell


    If I won the Euro millions with say €100,000,000 I would be so rich I would not have to worry about money ever again. (Provided I did not seek financial advice like Dolores did).

    Now if I am a billionaire, and am judged by Forbes or the Irish Independent to be one, it does not mean I have even €100,000,000 I can access. This is because I own properties that have debts, or I own shares that I cannot sell because they give me control of my company. I also have debts that I keep moving around for tax reasons. Plus I have hangers on who need funding.

    Add a bit of creative accounting to keep the tax man and the banks at bay, and it becomes clear why billionaires are short of ready cash.

    So Trump has to find $500,000,000 quickly, and no-one will give it to him - probably because he might need as much again next month and he probably cannot come up with that either. Sinking ship comes to mind - or the Ponzi scheme is unravelling.

    So Trump is in trouble.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,579 CMod ✭✭✭✭Nody


    Another lawyer thrown under the bus by Trump (what's the count now?)...

    According to latest reporting from the Daily Beast, Donald Trump's golf club in Bedminster, New Jersey settled a lawsuit last week for $82,500 arising out of a waitress who was unfairly silenced after facing sexual harassment. Alice Bianco, the waitress at issue, previously entered into a hush money agreement with the Trump golf club to her sexual harassment claims for about $15,000.

    According to reporting, the Daily Beast learned that Bianco was likely fraudulently induced into executing the agreement by none other than Trump's personal attorney, Alina Habba. The deal occurred back in 2021, and according to reporting, allowed Habba to get in the good graces of former President Donald Trump.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,774 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    There's a piece in one of Trump's rants about Judge Ergeron and AG James which he may not have meant to reveal. I copied this piece from the Daily Mail: Trump said any business thinking about moving into the state is 'CRAZY!' after prosecutors called him out for changing the addresses of several Trump business entities to Florida last week while facing the judgement. He called James 'Racist and Politically Corrupt' and said Engoron is a 'Crazed, Trump Hating Rogue Judge' who 'has ZERO respect for the Appellate Judges.' Trump also inveighed against the judge and the case in a statement from his presidential campaign, which has relied on a series of criminal and civil prosecutions to goose his poll numbers. He blasted 'Ironclad Disclaimer Clauses' and said the conduct the judge found occurred resulted in 'No Damages, No Victims – A Disgraceful “Case!” This Sham is forcing companies and people to flee New York, and stopping companies from entering.'

    Separately the Daily Mail report included that last week, AG James office wrote in a filing that Trump tried to move the addresses of multiple assets from Trump Tower to Florida. Her office complained that Trump's lawyers 'announced for the first time that various entity defendants operating in New York are allegedly now located on a golf club in Florida.' That included DJT Holdings LLC, 401 North Wabash Venture LLC and other entities. 'Defendants attempted that relocation even as they claim to this Court that those assets 'cannot be summarily disposed of or secreted out of the jurisdiction,' according to the filing.

    What the Daily Mail report doesn't provide information on is whom the person/s were who attempted to make the alleged move of firms addresses from NY to Florida. Judge Ergeron's order barred Trump and some of his associates from running businesses in NY.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,579 CMod ✭✭✭✭Nody


    Yes; but the new news is that a deal was struck that excluded her specifically leaving her open to be sued by her victim by the Trump organization :)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,774 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    Seeing as Trump has until Monday next to come up with the bond [if the appeal court doesn't find in his favour] I won't assume that he's out of the game due to cash shortage [outside disposing of assets] as he's such a tricky character hard to actually pin down. I'd like to think he is but won't bet one red cent on it until the late Monday US news reports that to be a fact.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,774 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    Habba is his front of house defence lawyer. Given how lawyers have behaved in court for both anti and pro Trump sides, it wouldn't surprise me to learn that she behaved without caution.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,774 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    Has there been any backlash against Speaker Johnson and his allies in the GOP over their federal funding deal with Biden's administration?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,769 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    MTG has within the last hour has filed a surprise motion to oust him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,774 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    In terms of reality, what are the chances that she could rely on the Democrats siding with her in the house in any vote called on her motion for it to succeed? As for her own party members......

    Edit: MSN is running a story that Wisconsin GOP Rep Mike Gallagher, the China select committee chair, is retiring early from next month. He had been due to retire at the end of his congressional term this year but after blowback from other GOP members after he voted AGAINST impeaching Homeland Security Secretary Mayorkas. That would reduce the GOP vote majority in the house to one.

    Post edited by aloyisious on


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,579 CMod ✭✭✭✭Nody


    Slim; several democrats have said they have no interest in sinking him esp. if he would put an Ukraine aid to the floor for voting and seems limited interest among the Republicans as well for another drama over the position this close to election.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,095 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    You think MTG could align with the Democrats...what have you been sniffing today?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,774 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    The scent from a GOP rabbit-hole..... No I was being sarcastic about the odds of some Democrats keeping her in the bubble of her choosing, then bursting it from the floor.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,095 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    MTG only cares about herself, so I guess in that way she is exactly like Trump



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,774 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    MTG is pushing for the Speaker and the GOP to force Gallagher resign with immediate effect in order to have a special election and replace him with a GOP person more inclined to her side of the GOP and Trump. Apparently if Gallagher stays on as the Rep for his district past a specific date in April, he cant be replaced until the next election.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,331 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    No matter your opinion on Gallagher's worldview politically (he is a major hawk) its absolutely dire that he seems content to leave those in his congress and those who voted for him with no representation until November .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,232 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    The GOP have not been representing the voters the last few years.

    The recent refusal to pass the border bill because they want to leave it a mess until Trump arrives back in office is the perfect example.

    It's precisely because of this lack of real action that people like Gallagher are quitting.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,116 ✭✭✭bog master


    I seem to remember a Mitch McConnell refusing to fill a Supreme Court Judge for the best part of a year.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    he seems content to leave those in his congress and those who voted for him with no representation until November .

    There's a not unreasonable angle that the modern GOP are distinctly NOT representing the electorate by dint of their tactics, intransigence and intentional stymying of basic governance at every turn.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,774 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    According to his retirement statement in the Washington Examiner, Gallagher got approval from the House GOP leadership when he informed them of his early retirement plan. It goes without saying that if he was determined to go ahead regardless [seeing as he is not happy with the way the party was going Trump-wise and said he wouldn't attend the party caucus this year] the leadership may have had to take the slap with a smile.

    Other GOP members think along the lines your post includes. Some Wisconsin conservatives have blasted Gallagher’s exit as a deliberate move to hurt House Republicans, which Gallagher’s office has denied.  “I want you to know that this is deliberate,” another potential congressional contender, Alex Bruesewitz, said at a GOP dinner over the weekend. “This is the swamp and the RINOs’ way to backstab their constituents and the Republican voters one last time.”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,774 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    In the here and now of Trump-world, he's blamed Biden for the Hamas attack on Israel - 'He can't win because of the October 7th attack of Israel which he should have never been allowed to happen, would have never happened if I was president,'. 'His foreign policy throughout 50 years has been horrible,' Trump said about Biden. 'If you look at people that were in other administrations with him, they saw him as a weak, ineffective president, they would have never done that attack if I were there.'

    Trump's critique displaying gaps in actual events and history as usual.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,089 ✭✭✭eire4


    I would even take that a step further and say that at the moment the Republican party is not a legitimate democratic party but rather one that is authoritarian in nature with just a veneer of democratic beliefs.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,289 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Agreed, they are an authoritarian party currently somewhat tethered by a democratic system - A system they plan to dismantle if given the opportunity in November.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 20,584 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sam Russell


    I do not think they consider themselves tethered at all. If Trump wins in November, they will control all arms of the Federal Government - the President, the Senate, Congress, and the Supreme Court. They also have judges appointed throughout the Federal Court system at all levels.

    It will be a disaster if Trump gets elected.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,774 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    Well, the NBC hiring of Ronna McDaniel as a contributor after she left the RNC chair didn't last long. NBC's Universal Chair Cesar Conde said: 'After listening to the legitimate concerns of many of you, I have decided that Ronna McDaniel will not be an NBC News contributor.' Ronna's deal with NBC was for roughly US$300,000 a year. Apparently a large number of the legitimate concerns were about Ronna's support for Trump's claim of fraud in the 2020 election result.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,331 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    Its hilarious really. Ronna is a hack and was a failure at her previous job. I do think the idea of hiring someone who represents the view of the 50% or so of people who will vote Trump is interesting but Ronna isn't even part of that clique so she won't even bring any insight their either.

    The pontificating from NBC which is an echo chamber though was very amusing, they hired numerous Biden people over the years , genuinely what insight can Psaki can bring bar "Biden good, Trump bad" and then of course some other horrors such as Nicola Wallace who spun for the Iraq war back in the day.

    NBC could do with some pro Trump voices and Fox could do with some pro Biden voices but neither can risk it as both need to cater towards their respective audiences who live in echo chambers as that is what pays the bills unfortunately.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,774 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    I had the notion that Truth Social could do with a contributor of worth but that might not suit Don as he might be upstaged before he could approve of her contribution.



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