What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

Igotadose · 31-12-2023 09:33AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121552997#Comment_121552997

I think that 'possessing narcissistic personality disorder' is different than just 'being a narcissist'. Extroverts tend to be narcissists. Politicians tend to be extroverts.

TFG has been 'remotely diagnosed' with NPD, Dr. Bandy Lee is one of many who have said this. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-narcissistic-personality-disorder-mary-trump-john-zinner-bandy-x-lee-a9665856.html

(As TFG hasn't had a one-on-one diagnosis, the diagnosis is not confirmed, but walks like a duck, talks like a duck, ...)

This is one of the things that makes TFG so dangerous - he's mentally ill. People with NPD tend to be very manipulative, like TFG and his slavering MAGAt followers.

everlast75 · 31-12-2023 09:50AM

Just doing what he did in 2016 and 2020.

The same oul whinging.

Anyone who takes a single word of his bs as truth needs their head examined.

Quin_Dub · 31-12-2023 09:58AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121553065#Comment_121553065

Laying the ground work for "Stolen/Rigged Election" 2024 edition.

It is noteworthy that he's only talking about how it will be stolen from him and not that he will actually win.

Everything is " I'm awesome, but they are going to rig it so I lose"

If Haley or RDS actually manage to win a State caucus, watch him claim fraud as well.

pixelburp · 31-12-2023 10:05AM

Trump obviously realises that the "stolen election" nets him a nice nickel n' dime operation with his cult worshippers - why turn that tap off if he loses 2024? We know the legal challenges have no merit but why let logic get in the way.

I would like to think the federal authorities are much wiser to a repeat of the Jan 6th "don't call it an insurrection" insurrection. Cos trump's brazen continued stirring of that pot is only gonna make it worse.

Rawr · 31-12-2023 10:29AM

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You know, I’d almost feel sorry for the GOP if it they weren’t filled with the most hateful individuals the States have to offer, but all this smacks of Trump getting ready to rinse and repeat what he did for 2020. In the hopeful scenario of Trump losing again, he’s going to dig in his heels again and just get ready for another 4 years of what we’ve gotten already.

The GOP don’t ever get to move on while their Rapist candidate gets to sit on their ticket for as long as he damn well pleases, or until he expires. Knowing everyone’s luck, that might not be for a couple of decades yet. So then you’ve got Trump trying to “Stop the Steal” while decrying ongoing cases against him as “political interference” since he’s a GOP candidate for 2028, 2032, 2036, the year 2525…and so on…

The GOP are pretty stuck for never growing a spine when they had the chance and so far I only expect Melania to actually be rid of him if he loses 2024.

Christy42 · 31-12-2023 10:42AM

I have no idea how you can compare Obama and Trump. Whatever about Obama he at least has the ability to self regulate enough to write a sensible Christmas message etc.

I really never thought that would be a bar I would measure presidents by but Trump has lowered it massively.

Even on his take of becoming a dictator the best his defenders can come up with is that checks and balances. If checks and balances to stop someone being a dictator are needed the person should obviously not be that close to any sort of power.

Quin_Dub · 31-12-2023 10:46AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121553156#Comment_121553156

I'm undecided on Melania.

Sometimes I think that she's only hanging on until Barron comes of age and gets his cut of whatever money Trump has stashed away and that once that happens she'll be out the gap.

But then other times I think that maybe she's actually fully bought in to his bullshit but just doesn't much in public because her English isn't great and the heavy accent might confuse the loons as they are supposed to hate foreigners.

everlast75 · 31-12-2023 10:53AM

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"So the only question is whether you think being a higher level of narcissist is a good or bad thing, or possibly irrelevant"

Well, it's obvious.

If it's a democrat, it's an awful personality flaw which is dangerous in someone who wields so much power.

If it's Trump.. *shrugs nonchalantly*

pixelburp · 31-12-2023 11:16AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121553220#Comment_121553220

The problem is, there IS a great issue of a democratic deficit and broad corporate interests ruling much of American politics. Clearly the country needs reform, both electoral and cultural.

But.

Donald Trump is a dangerous and impulsive force of nature whose impatience and incompetence is the only reason 2016+ didn't turn into an outright authoritarian disaster. The supposed Checks and Boundaries that keep that in check broadly flimsy enough that something like the Unitary Executive Theory could conceivably degrade these checks to nothing with the right application of ideological malice. MAGA knows this, and is biding its time. Project 2025 is the blueprint, the intent is not subtle anymore. "Both Sides" either myopia, moral absolutism or wilful ignorance.

briany · 31-12-2023 03:13PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121553288#Comment_121553288

As much as I don't want to admit it, I think we owe a debt of gratitude to Ivanka Trump. Not for any moral quality she possesses, but she's nothing as far as political thought goes, yet she had her dad's ear during his term of office. While that may have been bad enough, it was infinitely better than allowing Bannon full control, because he had actual cunning, ambition and a plan. In fact, I'm surprised that Bannon didn't try to get back on board now that Ivanka and Jared are out of the picture (or Javanka, as Bannon called them), but maybe that's because Stephen Miller is now pulling the strings.

PropJoe10 · 31-12-2023 03:40PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121553185#Comment_121553185

Only a very disturbed mind or a troll could ever compare Obama and Trump. Take from that what you will.

I.R.Y.E.D · 31-12-2023 04:00PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121554272#Comment_121554272

"Only a very disturbed mind or a troll"

Good bit of research and evidence showing that the latter have the former.

Rawr · 31-12-2023 05:36PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121553196#Comment_121553196

I kind of feel the language barrier somewhat helps Melania become the perfect MAGA First Lady.

Her poor English and accent cloak any sense of her being an intelligent person, which for them is ideal. I suspect the dream life of a typical MAGA Hillbilly includes having an attractive dimwit for a wife who will perform her marital duties, does not offer debate and will happily *sit over there* with the other women, while the men-folk discuss important God-fearing issues.

But those devil-ish Dems just keep insisting on educating their women. Mercy be!

ohnonotgmail · 31-12-2023 10:02PM

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I'm not sure "would rather not be in the same city never mind the same bed" counts as fulfilling marital duties. Though she must have done it at least once I suppose.

Bass Reeves · 31-12-2023 11:19PM

If Trump manages to stay on the ballot I think he will win. However I think its less than a 50/50 chance he will. I actually think there is a good chance the US Supreme Court will rule against him.

There is a majority of traditional constitutional interpretation justices now on the bench. They will probably have the deciding voice in the SC for the next 20 years. However for there legacy to be historically sound they may well decide that Trump is a supporter of insurrection which bars him from office. If they do that there interpretation of the US constitution cannot be historically challenged

What happens if they bar him more than likely Nicki Haley goes on as the GOP candidate. I would expect she would beat Biden and I think that would be in the thinking of US Supreme Court conservative jurists as well, she would have every bit as good a chance of winning as Trump would have and the conservative SC jurists would cement there beliefs as well as probably guaranteeing control of the SC for a significant amount of time

Rawr · 31-12-2023 11:31PM

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Oh I didn’t mean the tragic / hilarious reality of Trump’s sham marriage, just the fiction that Melania even likes him that I feel the MAGA cult might latch onto.

I strongly doubt post-80’s Trump could land a willing partner in that arena without some financial incentive.

briany · 01-01-2024 01:59AM

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If what you are laying out comes to pass, the USA will go into a period of political turmoil that will be totally unprecedented in our lifetimes. I don't say that to mean I don't think Trump should be barred, but if you thought series 1-3 of "America" were wild, series 4 is going to totally blow your socks off.

For starters, Trump would not go into retirement and we'd be left with the bizarre scenario that the Republican party was controlled by a blacklisted politician who its remaining candidates would have to claim loyalty to. If Nikki Haley were to get the nod, she would have to essentially promise to act as a proxy president, acting under precise instruction from Trump, and to pull every single string it is possible to pull to get Trump out of all the legal bother he's in. Because the party is in such thrall to Trump and his ideology, having someone else run in his stead is only a marginal upgrade. It might be better for Trump to step aside for someone more electable and get the pardons from them, but that's a side point.

The even bigger worry is the idea of Trump not being allowed to run resulting in widespread disorder, with threats made toward public officials being made good on. That has to be dealt with in a way that does not further inflame the situation. And what would deep red states do? Political pressure would be huge, there, not to play ball, and happens then?

Again, it's not that barring Trump wouldn't be justified, but there must be plans in place to deal with the utter shitttstorm that'll follow, and not allow things to inadvertently play into Trump's hands.

Water John · 01-01-2024 08:56AM

I could live with NH getting the job. I know she's a neo-con, but at least it would be the rule of law. The Trump backers have proved they're mostly hot air. She'd eventually, once in office, have to face them down. Get those in Congress to fall into line behind her. It would be a handy escape route for many of them.

ohnonotgmail · 01-01-2024 09:37AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121555910#Comment_121555910

She didn't spend new years eve with him. There is no fiction that she likes him to hang on to.

the whole year inn · 01-01-2024 10:02AM

Thread title should be changed , alot of toxic mindsets against Trump , with zero discussion.

ancapailldorcha · 01-01-2024 10:12AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121556473#Comment_121556473

Such as?

pixelburp · 01-01-2024 10:24AM

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What discussion would you prefer about a candidate tethered to, and boldly talking of, eroding checks and boundaries in American democracy? If anything Trumps rhetoric has only got more aggressive, more confrontational and more directed towards a 2nd term as "revenge" since Jan 6th. It's hard to discuss when the subject behaves as he's often described.

You say "toxic" but what's the other angle here - and don't say "Trump derangement syndrome" because that's reductive and idiotic.

Field east · 01-01-2024 10:47AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121556473#Comment_121556473

No wonder there is zero discussion as IT IS HARD TO KNOW WHERE TO START?

looksee · 01-01-2024 10:52AM

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Well, come on then, give us something to discuss. Some actual policies that he is offering so we can discuss the merits of his ideas.

We have been waiting and asking for nearly 29 thousand posts, especially in more recent years, for something to demonstrate that he is more than a cult leader for the terminally deluded, better than a person filled with hate and need for revenge against anyone who disagrees with him, and a potential king figure who not only admires dictators but would very much like to be a dictator himself.

Tell us why we should respect and support someone who approves of the sentiments expressed here

Leroy42 · 01-01-2024 12:20PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121556393#Comment_121556393

What is your basis for that? She has said that she supports Trump and would continue supporting him even if he gets a conviction. She has nothing to say about his recent finding of raping Jean Carroll, has had nothing to say about him stealing classified documents, and then refusing to return them. She has had nothing to say about his involvement in Jan 6th or little to say about Jan 6th.

Once in office? And yes the idea that people will openly lie to get into office but then suddenly grow a backbone. This of course is giving them the huge benefit of the doubt, and takes no account of their desire to win a second term, or indeed to enjoy a legacy or to get anything done while in office and turning against the party that helped you get elected is not going to make them continue to support them.

Believe people when they tell you who they are.

ohnonotgmail · 01-01-2024 01:43PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121556473#Comment_121556473

says poster who hasnt discussed anything.

VinLieger · 01-01-2024 01:45PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121556473#Comment_121556473

Whats toxic about disliking a rapist?

Quin_Dub · 01-01-2024 01:53PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121556584#Comment_121556584

The fact that he himself posted that word cloud detailing what people thought he wants from another term as President and thinks it tells a good story is telling.

Where the biggest words are "Revenge" and "Power" followed closely by "Dictatorship" and "Nothing".

Says it all.

MisterAnarchy · 01-01-2024 02:05PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121556435#Comment_121556435

Melania was visiting her gravely ill mother in hospital last night, thats what relatives do.

Nothing is below the belt though.

Quin_Dub · 01-01-2024 02:08PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121557066#Comment_121557066

So what you're saying is that while his wife's mother is at deaths door, he continues to host sh!t parties and "political"rallies to grift money instead of being by his wife's side supporting her at this difficult time??.

Nothing is too low indeed.

What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

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