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What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,095 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    We are so far from the election though, so you are hedging your bets on a completely unknown election campaign.

    Even at that, Trump hasn't really made any campaign promises or any kind of manifesto other than STILL claiming the election was stolen...look how that worked out at the midterms last year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,667 ✭✭✭✭briany


    And the worst thing about Trump, apart from the fact that he would see America burned to the ground before contemplating spending a night in a federal prison, is that he gives his voters the sense that they've thumbed their nose at the establishment without giving them any positive material improvement to their lives whatsoever. Much like Brexit in that regard.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,818 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,232 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    The Democrats fault? He is primaried by the GOP, backed by the Congress and senate GOP members and voted fir by the GOP voters.

    Using your 'logic' then Biden is actually the fault of the GOP and all your complaints about the DNC should be levelled at Trump and the GOP.

    If Trump wins, then the fault lies with all those that supported him, including yourself. Putting your own narrow wants ahead of the very fundamental foundations of the US itself.

    While there could be some understanding of people willing to support him in 2016 there is nothing now. The very fact that the only thing you can attack Biden on is his age, whilst at the same time ignoring and excusing Trumps clear cognitive decline and not only that his lies, corruption, rape, stealing top secret documents, attempting to strong arm state leaders to manipulate the vote, but his stated desire to be a dictator and that he, be being POTUS or even running for POTUS is above the law.

    That knowing all that you still prepared to support him. That decision is all on you, and everyone else that supports him.

    Biden is far from the ideal candidate. But then Obama was ideal and GOP gated him. But Bidens ability is largely irrelevant gven the other option is likely to be Trump. There is mo choice. It might not be what you want, but given the choice between Trump and Biden, if at any point you even consider Trump to be a viable choice then you need to consider what it is you are voting for.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,700 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Agree almost completely. No chance Trump's going to end up in a real prison though in a country that crooked. House arrest is much more likely.

    Well, yes.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,109 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    So, you're going to make a donation to the Biden campaign?


    What a load of gutless nonsense. If Trump wins, it'll be the success of the Republicans. To think otherwise, is stupid and pathetic fake-victim blaming.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,818 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    I don't support Trump but I can see him winning.

    I'll ask you the same question as I asked the other one - who do you blame for 2016?

    Hillary - "I'm with her" - remember all that stuff?

    Remember the sheer arrogance of the Democratic party?

    The voters gave their opinion of the Democrats then and I have the impression that could happen again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,818 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    So nothing to do with the Democrats running Hillary Clinton or their campaign which promised all of the same? Nothing to do with the grotesque failures, incompetence and arrogance of the DNC throughout the campaign?

    Do you blame them for literally anything or is it the voters you hold most in contempt?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,700 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    If you do something, you are responsible for it. How hard is this to understand?

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,895 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    So people will remember the "arrogance" of the democrats from 7 years ago, but *not* remember the ineptitude, incompetency and corruption of Trump over the more recent four years term?

    Gotcha.

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,823 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Yeah Trumps stupidity had to be undone. Thats why he had to do so many.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 36,730 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Trump didnt say he would be a dictator, he said ‘No, no, no, other than day one. We’re closing the border and we’re drilling, drilling, drilling. After that, I’m not a dictator.’”


    "I'm not a murderer. After I killed that one guy, I didn't kill any more!"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,095 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    The very first sentence you quote contradicts what you just said...🤣



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,818 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    So it's the voters you blame most. Got there in the end. How dare they.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,700 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    I clearly specified the GOP. The voters chose Clinton by a few million.

    Since you're pushing Trumpster disinformation once again, let's leave it there.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,240 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Exactly there are many checks and balances, the President has limited powers.

    People said Trump would destroy America and cause WW3 when he was elected for his first term, the madmans finger on the button for the Nukes.

    What panned out was a largely uneventful and peaceful tenure of office despite all the provocation and underhand tactics by the Democrats and the crooked Main Stream Media.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,240 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    It doesnt.

    He jokingly said he'd be a Dictator on Day one.

    He cant be a Dictator anyway, you and others know that, there are huge checks and balances, the Us is a country with a long democratic tradition and a very decentralised governance system.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,823 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,630 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    So Trump must also be a dictator has he has signed more orders then Biden so far 180 to 220



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,232 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    Well, except for Jan 6th and the entire attempt to overturn democracy.

    Trump failed in his presidential term because he was lazy and ignorant. But he isn't even pretending that he wants to achieve anything of he wins again like medical reform or infrastructure. All he wants is revenge and to ensure that he never loses again.

    Do you really think he won't change election rules to suit himself? That he won't weaponise the DOJ to target opponents? That he, now he has the ultimate immunity, won't do whatever he wants and have people support him on the basis that the Democrats are a threat?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,818 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Misinformation? You refuse point blank to acknowledge any role of the Democrats and their own failures in the very existence of Trump as a political force.

    You are blaming the GOP for Trump's success in 2016 when the vast chunk of the party wanted nothing to do with him during the election. The GOP were just as surprised when Trump won as the campaign was.

    I blame the Democrats more than the GOP.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,205 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    I guess he got through the GOP primary and onto the ballot using magic beans then.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,198 ✭✭✭mun1


    The “it’s your fault i did what i did, you should have done more to stop me !” Defence is strong here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,095 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    "‘No, no, no, other than day one." yes, yes it does.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 895 ✭✭✭Stanley 1




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,968 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    @MisterAnarchy Trump has pretty recently said that he doesn't have to uphold the Constitution.

    Just an insurrection, egging on white supremacists and downplaying them marching on Charlottesville. Plus a pandemic where he tended to be the biggest spreader of disinformation. On top of that pretty much destroying the US reputation on the national stage.

    Also that general effort to overturn a fair election through egging on an insurrection is entirely the behaviour of a person who views himself to be dictator. So at best you can claim he failed in his effort to become one.

    In terms of the general morality of the GOP pushing him for next year that tends to show him morally destitute the party is. Trump a fraudster, racist and rapist for president.


    Anyway, this will most likely get a response of "I'm not a Trump supporter, I'm a centrist"...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,667 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Donald Trump has said he'd be a day one dictator - there's an important subtext to that, not that the words aren't alarming enough.

    The implication is that he needs to be a dictator on day one in order to make several pressing changes like closing the border.

    But if he gets to the end of day one and decides that, by god, enough just has not been done? He goes to his base and says to them, "I need to make more changes! You want a day two dictator??" and they go, 'Yeah!!!'. But the 'deep state' (ie anyone he considers an enemy) keeps pushing back on his reforms. He again goes to his people and say, "The deep state is trying to stop me from making America great again!! Do you want me to be a dictator for as long as it takes to defeat them??" and his base goes, "Ohhh fooking hell heah!!!!!"

    Trump is not joking around. If he could be a dictator, he would be one in perpetuity. Project 2025 is very clear about what it wants to achieve and it must be music to Trump's ears.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,109 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    For some reason Boards isn't quoting right today. Your farcical phrase:

    "It doesnt.

    He jokingly said he'd be a Dictator on Day one.

    He cant be a Dictator anyway, you and others know that, there are huge checks and balances, the Us is a country with a long democratic tradition and a very decentralised governance system."

    is what I wanted to quote. TFG's had 7 years assault on all aspects of the US government; he claims he'll fire all non-loyalists on day one that he can fire within the government (one wonders how he'll determine that bit.)

    Oh, and has been repeated to you and your Trumpster ilk, your messiah himself has repeatedly said, "I don't kid." Get up the yard with that tired defense already.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,840 ✭✭✭Field east


    Sorry, I meant to say “——-other than YEAR one What was ‘. Sorry , my mistake. Are we all human and make mistakes now and again!,!!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,645 ✭✭✭tinytobe



    I've got no problem with republican ideas in general, but I've got a problem with Trump. I am surprised that the republicans couldn't find anybody more serious than Trump. The whole world is laughing behind his back, - that is if it were a laughing matter, but it isn't. Putin wanting the Ukraine, China wanting Taiwan, so one can imagine the US's role under Trump in this scenario.

    It's not only the insurrection, but he also mishandled confidential documents, and let's not forget how many people, organizations and countries he's offended.



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