Random Golf Thoughts

awec · 20-10-2023 04:14PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121263498#Comment_121263498

You're basically looking for any pro that offers group lessons. Leopardstown do them, if that's close.

spacecoyote · 22-10-2023 04:00PM

Have seen some of the pros in the Spawell range do group lessons too.

And some clubs the club pro do "Getting into Golf" sessions giving lessons with a view to getting new joiners in too

Seve OB · 23-10-2023 01:48PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121263498#Comment_121263498

Peter O’Hagen @ Luttrelstown Golf Club does group lessons

VW 1 · 24-10-2023 11:03AM

Am I right in thinking that competitive rounds played at this time of the year with full placing won't show up in the Golf Ireland app as 'non-counting' rounds?

blue note · 24-10-2023 11:13AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121277760#Comment_121277760

You're correct that they shouldn't. But I've a desperate round in mine. Placing everywhere, so it shouldn't be there.

slave1 · 24-10-2023 12:24PM

But if you want to play a counting round with clean/place on fairway only then I can't see a reason why not

The Big Easy · 24-10-2023 02:03PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121278017#Comment_121278017

Technically, but if any tees are forward it may or may not affect the course rater and/or slope.

Also depends if or how many bunkers are out of play.

How would/is this being policed though?

Like can you go out to play a causal counting round (on app) in winter off some forward tees while placing in fairway only?

VW 1 · 24-10-2023 02:11PM

Was wondering as I played a round yesterday but it was clean and place everywhere and it didn't show up on GI. I assumed that was why, but just double checking.

Edmundy · 24-10-2023 02:15PM

The same, a terrible day and was never going to have a good score but thought it not counting

PARlance · 24-10-2023 02:22PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121278559#Comment_121278559

I thought it was non-counting if even one was out of play? Haven't a clue of the rules but just basing it on below.

Had a friend break par for the first time this summer and he was less than happy when it never registered, took him a few days to find out that one of the bunkers was having work done so it wasn't a counting round.

There must be a few exceptions?

The Big Easy · 24-10-2023 02:43PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121278632#Comment_121278632

That can't be right, can it?

We regularly have one or more bunkers out of play and I'm pretty sure some/most of those rounds have still been counting.

In our place I think it's only non-counting if most/all bunkers are out of play.

Non-counting because of one bunker being out of play seems bizarre though

paulos53 · 24-10-2023 02:50PM

Under WHS, clubs are allowed to have qualifying rounds if all bunkers are out of play.

The Big Easy · 24-10-2023 02:52PM

https://www.randa.org/en/roh/the-rules-of-handicapping/rule-2

Just looking it up there and any scores outside of the course's "active season" cannot count for handicapping purposes.

Clears one thing up I suppose.

Nothing specific about bunkers though, only "normal playing difficulty", which seems open to interpretation.

paulos53 · 24-10-2023 02:55PM

Just reading into it a bit more, a qualifying round can takes place if bunkers are GUR due to flooding. Strictly speaking this wouldn't cover bunker renovations but it seems harsh to make it non-qualifying for this.

Edit: Link to Golf Ireland's guidance on qualifying rounds during the winter

https://static.clubhouse.golfireland.ie/clubs/1000/uploads/files/golf%20ireland%20winter%20golf%20guidelines%20oct%202022.pdf

PARlance · 24-10-2023 02:58PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121278723#Comment_121278723

In his case, he was told that it was non-counting because of that one bunker... He did question it and the comp sec was adamant.

I suppose if even one person was to land in that one bunker, the rest of the field would be at a disadvantage / or it could skew things.

It's probably only as bizarre as having it counting if most bunkers were out of play seeing that they make up a big challenge of most courses / are weighted highly in course ratings etc.

The Big Easy · 24-10-2023 02:59PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121278778#Comment_121278778

That's interesting, our Captain's qualifier was non-counting this year due to all the bunkers being out of play.

I'd be single figures without bunkers!

PARlance · 24-10-2023 05:08PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121278778#Comment_121278778

You would think that a bunker being renovated was more of a case of Ground Under Repair than a flooded bunker would be.

Seve OB · 24-10-2023 11:03PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121278559#Comment_121278559

Clubs have the control to turn on or off the ability to register scores in the app. If it is placing everywhere they should have it turned off.

Seve OB · 24-10-2023 11:23PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121278632#Comment_121278632

That is a load of bollox

he should take that up with Golf Ireland.

but not sure I agree with @paulos53 but in fairness he has backed it up with the GI memo.

We had a non qualifier a good few weeks back purely because all bunkers were out of play due to heavy rain the night before. Pro seemed to know the old rule was if more than a ⅓ or ¼ bunkers were out of play then non qualifying would kick in but wasn’t up to speed on the new WHS rules. it was let run as if it would be qualifying and they would check it out with GI and it was non qualifying in the end

it doesn’t seem right that a round can be qualifying if bunkers are all out of play, but logically if there are a couple out it really should be fine. Courses are never the same, pins and tee markers changed, shortened and lengthened within the parameters allowed so the odd bunker being out of play should be ok

paulos53 · 25-10-2023 08:19AM

@Seve OB I don't necessarily agree with my previous statement either. Just guessing how some people might interpret the Golf Ireland guidelines. My own club has had a couple of bunkers GUR for the entire year and there has been no issue with running qualifying competitions.

I had a look at the equivalent guideline on the England Golf website and they explicitly include maintenance work as a valid reason for taking bunkers out of play and still allowing qualifying rounds.

It really is something that should be defined by WHS instead of allowing each national association to come up with their own rules.

billy3sheets · 25-10-2023 09:33PM

A Committee can choose to treat certain bunkers as ground under repair in the general area so that free relief is allowed outside the bunker.The Committee should only use this Local Rule for specifically identified bunkers and is not authorized to make a Local Rule providing generally that all bunkers filled with temporary water are ground under repair.

Model Local Rule F-16.

My interpretation of this is that if all bunkers are ruled as out of play(GUR), then the competition cannot be qualifying. Otherwise it can.

Mantis Toboggan · 16-11-2023 12:36PM

Anyone endure the Netflix cup yet?

Sorbet · 16-11-2023 02:22PM

Tried but couldn’t stick more than 15 minutes. Once they were running down the first I was out….

coillcam · 16-11-2023 05:53PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121375713#Comment_121375713

It's much of a parallel to plenty of the YouTube/influencer golf stuff. Aimed more at the young crowd and those sports fans who have limited interest or knowledge in Golf. Some golfers have an interest in this stuff but the general golf fan isn't the target.

Given that F1 is huge globally and had a massive uptick in interest over recent years, it's a fairly obvious strategic partnership for targetting a big demographic.

slave1 · 17-11-2023 07:26AM

Decent price ProV1X if you have AMZ Prime…

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B09Q769FLF?smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&tag=pepperegc22-21&ascsubtag=2604378734

blue note · 17-11-2023 10:34AM

I watched a bit of the netflix thing. While I thought it was awful, there are decent ideas in it. I like throwing on rubbish golfers on youtube, so sticking amateurs on TV isn't a bad thing. They might as well be celebs. The buggies are an excellent idea, you can have only a few people on the course and plenty of shots to play. I liked the long drive comp for a mulligan. The fastest hole was stupid. The presenters were incredibly annoying.

It's not going to take the place of a tournament, but this done well could be more palatable than an insignificant DP / PGA event. Maybe the golf league thing they're doing could be something similar.

They should wear shorts though. Not just on this, on the tours too. It looks stupid seeing lads play in blistering conditions in long pants.

awec · 27-11-2023 10:14AM

Any recommendations for winter gloves?

Are these sort any use?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Callaway-Thermal-Gloves-Black-Large/dp/B07HJ5DZWX/ref%3Dpd_ci_mcx_mh_mcx_views_0?pd_rd_w=ORqRU&content-id=amzn1.sym.6aea875e-359f-49f3-864f-cff62d586b6a%3Aamzn1.symc.ca948091-a64d-450e-86d7-c161ca33337b&pf_rd_p=6aea875e-359f-49f3-864f-cff62d586b6a&pf_rd_r=GTRYH4794P2X9621V9MS&pd_rd_wg=iapPi&pd_rd_r=a6ebcde6-3b6d-48e1-bc6c-4d92e68edb30&pd_rd_i=B07HJ5DZWX&th=1

Seve OB · 28-11-2023 12:15PM

i have had UA ones and they were crap

i have Footjoy ones now and they are pretty decent

i I guess everyone’s hands are different though and you just need to make sure they fit you well

awec · 28-11-2023 12:17PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121428037#Comment_121428037

Do you have the fitted type with individual fingers or the bulkier mitten types that I see people wearing?

I wonder how those mitten types work if you interlock your fingers on your grip? Do you just use a different grip in the winter?

Seve OB · 28-11-2023 12:21PM

I have both

you don’t wear the mittens when hitting shots

although I do recall one time being so cold and miserable they may well have stayed in for a shot or 2 🤣

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