Switching electric/gas providers (see first post for links)

33.76 * 1.09 = 36.7984

Vat not applied on 33.76 and when applied its 36.80

If you bother going to the website.... "User data is NOT saved on the server (all data is processed on in the browser)"

Here's the link. It's not actually fully linked in the Bord Gais thread. So not easy to find

https://onelv.retool.com/embedded/public/ee29e65c-fc32-492f-8baf-e4a3312a22c0

As pointed out by Loyatemu, I had it pasted wrong 🤦🏻‍♂️

As someone who hasn't had the smart meter installed yet,

1) Is it generally a bad idea activating it? I presume it could be enabled later if required.

2) Do you get requested to activate it after it has been installed or what process is followed normally?

They include vat....prices have decreased for pinergy if that is what was catching you out...i thought the same!

It acts as a smart meter once it's connected up, it no longer requires being read by anyone, readings are uploaded automatically to esbn and then forwarded to your provider as needed. After some time you can access the consumption data by creating an account on the esbn site not through EI or any other providers site. If you have a 24hr plan and only access the meter data through esbn, the meter, from a billing point of view is viewed on the network as MCC01 a 24 hour meter and you can change providers availing of 24hr plans.

For the online retool -it seems that data for 'free' saturday/sunday offerings is not accounted for properly; usage on those days could be 15-20% from overall bills ( and not under 5% as reported by software )

not sure how difficult is to make the software match the date with day of the week - but other switching websites seems to skip this feature too, although one of the key selling points of smart meter plans was to 'reward' usage outside peak hours/ weekdays

Energia much cheaper. Their website offers 10% off but you can get 15% off over the phone/email

Just confirming what Caranica said above - Energia are giving 15% rather than the advertised 10% if you call and ask.

If you are Rural like me, be aware that the Energia website usually quotes the Urban standing charge even when it's displaying the Rural unit charges. Also there seems to be confusion between the comparison sites and the supplier sites about standing charges.

Deal I got just over the phone for electricity, for a Rural consumer, was discount 6% for D.D, 4% for "online", 5% for "promotion" i.e. 15 % total

Unit rate for Smart 24 Hour plan was 32.94 incl VAT, incl 15% discount, all day long. Standing charge is €301.

The agent was VERY careful to make sure I knew about the "no going back" aspect of smart plans - told me 3 times I think. They must be getting a lot of heat. Doesn't bother me in the least, especially if they offer an equivalent or better single rate plan. In this case the non-smart meter plan with Energia would have been 35c per unit incl vat and 15% discount, so that's fine by me.

Hey guys, I have got a weird experience with Flogas CP.

Basically, they signed up me 28th AUG, I have received mandate and in the mid of SEP I called them to adjust my DD information, as I moved to other bank.

13 OCT they cancelled my plan without notifying me (14d period def passed, even more than 1 month). Right now they are saying something weird has happened and to get me back I need to subscribe on their "current" plans only. I know there is late cancellation fee (50EUR), can I fine them for this cancellation without notifying me?

What had your peak usage to do with not moving to a smart plan? I just moved from EI smart plan to energia smart plan. And neither had peak usage rates.

Not with either of the smart plans I was on. Only day, night and extra low EV.