The 2023 All Ireland Senior Football Championship (Sam Maguire Cup)

RoyalCelt · 03-07-2023 04:17PM

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What a load of waffle. Just checked our PM history and all I see is a massive message you wrote me 4 years ago. Unless it's bugged.

Mate Meath fan wanted this before your match. We all would prefer Kerry v Derry.

Neither of those fans would cause us hassle on the day and tickets wouldn't be stressful to get as it won't sell out. Absolute joke the fixtures.

rodmn2377 · 03-07-2023 04:23PM

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They were great occasions but they happen once in a blue moon unfortunately.... i know lots didn't like the group set up but i enjoyed it... i think they can still tweak it and make changes but i wouldn't be throwing it out straight away... i think it needs a few yrs under the belt before making a full time decision on it...

Furze99 · 03-07-2023 05:20PM

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There's the died in the wool GAA supporter who'd agree with you. There's also a regular GAA advert that states the GAA is the place for everyone or something like that - this latter is delusional as the sports must compete for interest with other codes and sport.

From the POV of the more average, casual sports fan then the football champ is pretty dire - mostly poor fare and almost no romance or surprise. Only at final and perhaps semis do people perk up and take an interest in the usual suspects. If the GAA want a championship that catches the public imagination more, it needs to deliver on the prospect of upsets and uncertainty. You do this by an open draw, knockout, no back doors and results on the day. Teams live or die from Round 1. That'd shake things up big time but will likely never happen as vested counties with expectations would hate the idea. On other hand the likes of the Wicklows etc would love it as every dog can have it's day and take out a big one.

tayto lover · 03-07-2023 05:40PM

I'd still prefer a 32 county Open draw and knockout. That way you might get an odd surprise but a team achieving a surprise win would still get caught the next time. I think it's all about money and gates now.

Musicrules · 03-07-2023 06:03PM

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It is all about money and gates. It's trying to dress up the absolute mess the GAA have made. They tried it with the super 8's, there's this current set up and there will be more. While this is going on, the real elephant in the room has been growing larger. Dublin got a huge level of funding from the GAA and spend vast amounts on many areas. We all know this led to winning bucket loads of provincial and All Ireland titles. Kerry saw this, it took them a while but they got funding from elsewhere and have been pumping it into their development.

Some other counties have been trying to keep up, spending as much as they can but it's not sustainable. Kerry and Dublin have pushed ahead of everyone else with the huge amount of resources available to them. They just destroyed Mayo and Tyrone, look how much they are beating some teams in their Province by. There's no point in coming up with any of these different systems until the inequality in funding is tackled.

dxhound2005 · 03-07-2023 06:15PM

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Wicklow had 100 years of that system. The best they could do is reach one Leinster Final, and they lost that. In 1897.

03-07-2023 06:15PM

While watching the Dublin v Mayo I noticed that an awful lot of the Dublin team were very familiar from the six in a row team.

So I did a little research.

Of the squad yesterday 16 were also involved 5 years ago in the 2018 final, and there was also Graig Diaz who has been around for ever anyway.

The newcomers that had no part in 2018 were Byrne, Gannon, Bugler.

Kerry on Saturday had 11 from their last game in 2018 v Kildare.

cj maxx · 03-07-2023 06:19PM

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I wouldn't mind a 32 team draw either. The centenary Cup was great

Well up until the final when the width a post denied us the win

YabaDabaDooley · 03-07-2023 06:24PM

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Davy Byrne might not have played in the 2018 final but he's certainly not a newcomer and has multiple All Ireland medals, Leinsters and National League titles in his back pocket.

Duffy the Vampire Slayer · 03-07-2023 06:26PM

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Kerry or Dublin teams would be stoned if they played like Mayo yesterday.

IRE60 · 03-07-2023 07:09PM

Tickets for 15th available on ticketmaster just now

03-07-2023 07:22PM

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Yeah I thought that, but I didn't do much checking beyond the Dublin squad that played Tyrone in 2018.

The interesting thing is that Dublin are still relying on so many of that 6 in a row team, it's hardly changed in many years.

That's grand for beating Mayo in a QF, but is it good enough to keep Dublin competitive for this decade?

YabaDabaDooley · 03-07-2023 07:35PM

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We've already seen the departure of a lot of great players that helped us dominate 2011-2020. When the likes of James Mc, Kilkenny, Fitz, J Small, Rock, Jack and Cluxton hang up the boots over the next year or two it will be the end of our greatest era. And i dount we'll ever see the likes again. I'm just hoping the lads mentioned can squeeze one more All Ireland before they step away. When they do i think we'll go through a i bit of a barren spell. I think it's inevitable.

corny · 03-07-2023 07:35PM

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Depends on the management for me. The current iteration of the team has two or three years left tops. After that a lot of lads who've been on the periphery will have to start plugging the gaps. I say depends on the management though because how they integrate will determine how competitive Dublin are.

One thing I will say is that Dublin club football is strong so while our minors haven't been setting the world alight recently there will always be a decent pool to choose from.

YabaDabaDooley · 03-07-2023 07:40PM

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Our minors have won one All Ireland in 39 years. It is an appalling return.

breezy1985 · 03-07-2023 08:05PM

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Someone pops up with this straight knockout shte every few weeks but the truth is the "vested interests" are the players.

You can't ask players to do all that modern training to get knocked out after 1 game. Will kill the sport.

YabaDabaDooley · 03-07-2023 08:25PM

Only catching up with the Sunday Game highlights now and first look at Saturdays behind-a-paywall games.

Kerry looked very impressive. Their defence looked watertight and the team looked to have boundless energy and fitness levels. Tyrone on the other hand looked flat and lethargic. Hard to really make a proper judgement after seeing about five minutes of play but Kerry look to be coming to the boil at the right time. Doesn't look like last years All Ireland has sated their appetite.

Gael85 · 03-07-2023 08:31PM

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David Byrne missed the whole 2018 championship after picking up an injury after the league that year. Made his Dublin debut in 2015.

Gael85 · 03-07-2023 08:41PM

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It is but I don't think Dublin prioritise winning minor titles. Players on them teams are picked more on football ability rather than size. The Derry team that beat us last week were physically stronger than us. Dublin look to develop players when they reach 19-21. It worked well winning 4 u21 titles in 8 years (2010-2017). Since she change from u21 to 20 we have struggled to bring young lads through to senior set up.

shockframe · 03-07-2023 09:09PM

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Yes the quarter finals weren't great but if you're looking at other sports as a barometer then it's not exactly been blown out of the water either.

of the 4 champions Cup Rugby quarter finals there was on average 26 points winning margins across the 4 games.

Of the Champions League quarter finals there was only 1 game that was any way close (Milan Napoli) and I'd say it would be about equal to Armagh-Monaghan.

You dont get the same 'sky is falling in' vibes from followers of Rugby or Soccer I dare say.

Furze99 · 03-07-2023 09:28PM

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I dunno, we're only talking about the AI championship. County players would still be playing club games and league games for county, plenty of games surely?

I suppose you're right though in the sense that it's the players who matter and what they want. The general public etc come well down the list.

PTH2009 · 03-07-2023 10:50PM

Can see a shock and it'll be a Derry vs Dublin AI Final

dunnerc · 03-07-2023 10:55PM

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No

dunnerc · 03-07-2023 11:02PM

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100% agree royalcelt has got to be the most miserable git ever on this site

BENDYBINN · 03-07-2023 11:02PM

Mayo hammered two yrs in a row at quarter final stage……..Galway showed them far too much respect in salthill..

dunnerc · 03-07-2023 11:04PM

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Very poor effort 🙄

dunnerc · 03-07-2023 11:14PM

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Gawd waffle indeed 🙄

rodmn2377 · 04-07-2023 08:15AM

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I dunno if id agree with you there about the general public.. a 32 county knockout is great for any Div1/Div 2 team and there supporters as they will get a few days out unless there extremely unlucky and meet another top tier team... most of the lower division teams are gone at the first hurdle... so its there supporters who only get there 1 day out for the summer... if you take Sligo this yr... there supporters got at least 5 games home and away and brought decent support to all these games... mightn't have got the wins but id say they would rather get out to these games then sitting at home watching...

dxhound2005 · 04-07-2023 09:11AM

It wouldn't take extreme bad luck to find a number of the top 16 drawn against each other. Just like Shamrock Rovers are playing Dundalk, and Bohs are playing Shels in the last 32 of the FAI cup. A Dublin v Kerry or a Mayo v Galway is just as likely as any other combination.

gigantic09 · 04-07-2023 10:26AM

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Don't think Galway would have done much better Sunday especially with question marks over their top Players.like us they blew any chance they had by not topping the group.

The 2023 All Ireland Senior Football Championship (Sam Maguire Cup)

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