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  • Registered Users Posts: 17,765 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe



    Even Putin doesn't dispute the facts around 9/11 or the Holocaust

    CS is on another level completely. Again, this whole thread is like a circus attraction for just one boards poster.

    Roll up, roll up, interact with the most extreme views on this site..



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭Cheerful S


    It's been three weeks since Ukraine tried to take Lyman with 25,000 troops with only 5,000 Russians to defend it. Russian forces have kept the Ukrainians from capturing it fully because of their morale and bravery. Now the new Russian troops arrived last night and got into battle last night and today. There are counterattacks going on. 



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,482 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    There is no way you can believe your own nonsense. How do you justify cheering on paedophiles, rapists, and murder era? How would you feel if your family fell victim or peadophiles, murders, and rapists?



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭Cheerful S


    I have repeatedly stated that I do not support Kiev government . It's a tragedy that people in northern Ukraine have to live with this war because of the erroneous decisions made here. I'm for Russia's right to security and to unite people in certain parts of Ukraine with Russia. Donbas and Crimea decided they wanted to rule themselves, so they signed Minsk 2. Ukraine didn't follow through on its promises and listened to the Americans and English instead.  



  • Registered Users Posts: 17,765 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Putin's plan was always to absorb and conquer Ukrainian territory. Every step of the way the Kremlin has infiltrated Ukrainian politics, fermented influence, you think that was for any other reason? I have worked with Ukrainians and Russians for years, this is a secret to absolutely no one. When the manufactured conflict in Eastern Ukraine wasn't working, Putin just full on Hitler invaded the country. "Nazis" and biolabs and nuclear weapons and "encirclement"? all the most cringe-worthy propaganda, worse than the crap Bush invented to go Iraq, your response? Mindlessly lap it all up.

    Whether the Kremlin is showing a comically fake photoshopped picture of a Ukrainian jet firing a missile at a Malaysian airliner, or shrugging their shoulders at another Russian nerve agent attack, or some other oil executive has fallen out another window, or claiming the 60th chemical weapons attack by Assad is yet another perfect inside job by "the West", or that a fake referendum in Crimea which really only got 30% turn-out and 50% vote was really a 97% result, it's always these systematic lies - you lap every bit of it up. Why? Because your fanatical views make this stuff irresistible to you.

    Likewise I could come in here with another account spewing utter made-up conspiracy twaddle and pseudo-science about 9/11, and you'd lap it up. It's so simple.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭Cheerful S


    In a scenario like 9/11 or JFK happening in Chechnya, wouldn't protest as hard. As a Nato/CIA puppet, you can't see past your biases that Russia wanted security here, but geopolitical and historical hangups of the last cold war still dominate UK and US thinking. While Russia has its hangups, they're not bringing its military alliances to the EU countries.

    While you're foaming at the mouth about Russia again, you're ignoring that Ukraine and Russia signed a peace agreement in 2014. You don't want to get into the details of why it didn't work because it'd expose your hypocrisy. It is typical of debunkers to avoid hard facts and to focus more on generalities when discussing points.  

    Millions of people live here. If Russia were already there, why did it take February 2022 to invade? Who has been fighting the Ukrainian army for the past decade? Expose your Nato talking points every day. You want to ignore millions of people with Russian heritage refused to be ruled by this Kyiv government and instead of sticking to what was agreed on Ukraine, they massed their army in the regions. In fact, he wasn't just rushing to the border; he was trying to talk to the west about true peace. There's an error in the west that can't accept a huge minority in Ukraine wants nothing to do with Zelensky. Your wacky hekld Nato viewpoint says these people are being held hostage by Russia and would welcome the Ukrainian army with flowers. 

    The only option Putin had when conditions and peace talks failed was to leave this region to the Nato-trained Ukrainian Army be destroyed, or invade.  

    Chemical attacks in Syria involved Nato countries. This attack was clearly staged. Assad may have used some dirty bomb chemicals may or may not have happened. I'm open to the possibility that Assad dropped some chemicals during the war? There's a dispute over the Mayalsia airliner. The missile system itself proves nothing, both countries own it.  It can't be a genuine mistake by Russia or Ukraine that was just covered up, can it?

    There were 83 percent turnout, but 17 percent didn't show up at the polls. That's probably a sign that Ukrainians didn't want to join. You've barely read your NATO talk nonsense, so no surprise believe those voting numbers. 



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭Cheerful S


    Ukrainians have been making up stories since the war started about magical pilots destroying five generation SU35 airplanes with 20 year old Soviet aircrafts. Another claim during early months of the war Ukrainian forces defended snake Island with some fake heros and made the world believe it. However, it turned out they actually surrendered the island immediately and didn't fire a shot. Another fake claim says one of Russia's top generals and all his staff were killed in a compound, then weeks later the same general shows up with Putin. Ukraine fake stories are endless.

     Known to murder civilians who supported Russia after the invasion, drop them off and blame Russian soldiers. Fake Russia soldiers calls online too. West believes Ukraine can't lie about rapes and killings. 



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,482 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    Can’t you answer a straight forward question?



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭Cheerful S


    It's possible some Russian soldiers in stupidity did bad things, but not to the extent Ukraine claims. Did you see the video of Wagner's head trying to recruit assault troops in the prison? He said any raping of local women won't be tolerated by them never mind Russian combat troops. There are strict rules about this, but not the picture you're giving Western news channels. 



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,228 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    The Wagner group doing a staged video😂🤣


    Riggggghtt…..



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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,482 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    So no, you can’t answer a straightforward question.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭Cheerful S


    Sure Putin's arm is falling off at this point, if you believe western propaganda. Stories are endless yet the man standing for hours making speeches. Nevertheless, Biden looks for dead people in audiences and thinks he's in the Senate since 1720 gaffes are just ignored, Man clearly senile and being injected with something to help read the writing on the screen.  



  • Registered Users Posts: 25,226 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Ranting Russian propaganda with nothing to do with 9/11.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭Cheerful S


    Riots and Putin is on his way out, Russia in the west is falling apart. Scenes like this are great to see.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,482 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    What a screwed up view.

    People paid to cheer for a person that approves of his army raping children and adults, murdering indiscriminately, and stealing.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭Cheerful S


    As a result of the Kherson offensive, the Ukrainians basically admitted to losing 10,000 soldiers. They're on the 4th or 5th mobilization, so they're sending young guys out to fight. It's not uncommon for students to be dragged out of universities without their say and sent to the battlefield. The idea is that these guys are combat veterans lie.

    West deliberately lied about nuclear issues and wanted to scare own population. If NATO sends troops into Ukraine, Putin has a right to use nuclear weapons. Over the last week, the west made up a lot of crap to claim he use nuclear weapons to attack Ukraine. He was not warning to US about an invasion by them. Even though private armies are recruiting for the war in Ukraine, it's still not considered a NATO involvement.

    Zelensky was upset his forces didn't get a PR victory when Ukraine tried to capture Liman ( Lyman) by Friday. Zelensky went off the reservation, and up by what was going on in Moscow, he decided to do a stunt and join NATO. They told him they wouldn't be joining anytime soon. Nato they'd be fine with Ukraine women and men dying here no problem as long as it wasn't them.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,482 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    Blah blah blah. More nonsense and inability to answer direct questions. You should find yourself a Russian website where they would lap up they shite.



  • Registered Users Posts: 12,445 ✭✭✭✭The Nal




  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 75,274 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    This thread seems to have left 9/11 behind some time ago

    As no local mods seem to be around I've closed it



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