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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,553 ✭✭✭✭Varik


    Do you happen to know what year he'd his original B permit.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,101 ✭✭✭chasm


    Found this on the NDLS/mygov page:

    "I have not held a learner permit in the last 5 years, therefore why have I an option to apply for a learner permit in the motorbikes /cars ?

    You will be given this option if you passed a driver theory test between April 2001 and October 2006 and hold a full licence in the motorbike or car as at that time the driver theory test covered both motorbikes and the car categories."

    Have to laugh, I've a full A1 licence, driving since 2000, but as it was before the theory test came in, it actually involves more for me to progress to an A2 or go for an A than it does for a B licence holder who sat the theory during the quoted dates lol

    Anyway, thanks for all the replies, I've sent the above info to my friend, who I'm assuming passed their theory test for a car during the above quoted dates.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,446 ✭✭✭LollipopJimmy


    So I did a theory test for nothing 🙃



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,783 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    It was daft to have a combined car and bike theory test.

    Scrap the cap!



  • Registered Users Posts: 418 ✭✭slystallone


    Anyone able to give feedback on the waiting times for a test. I feel like I am lost in the system at this stage. Months since I heard anything back. Gave them a ring but no help. At this stage between Lockdowns etc my IBT is going to go out of date soon.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,994 ✭✭✭Taylor365


    Waited about 1 year and 3 months.


    Mention that you are going to complain to your local TD on here, and you'll miraculously find a test date will show up for you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,783 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Try other centres

    Ring and say your IBT is expiring and you'll take a cancellation test at short notice (assuming that you can get a day off work when you need it)

    Or even try saying that you need it for work / are an "essential worker" (I don't know who employs inessential workers 😛 )

    Scrap the cap!



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,994 ✭✭✭Taylor365




  • Registered Users Posts: 418 ✭✭slystallone


    What a farce - not one Centre in the country with an opening for a bike test and no waiting list times available



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 657 ✭✭✭flashinthepan


    That is what i was getting when waiting for my test after I let the 10 day booking elapse

    Every time I checked online it said no availability for every test center

    I tried to add myself back on to the waiting list but it said i was already on it


    I had to ring them and say that every test center said no availability and the Girl said she would add me back to the list and I got a new date within a week or so

    You should give them a ring



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  • Registered Users Posts: 418 ✭✭slystallone




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,436 ✭✭✭nigeldaniel


    The IBT situation seems to be getting out of hand. A mega lack of IBT schools and the RSA, in general, seem to be putting all the effort into the car tests and truck tests. Bikes are most likely at the bottom of the list. The bike community in Ireland is small enough with no great voice and that is very much that. The biggest problem I experience before I passed my test was the lack of schools and bike hire. Trying to get replies from the RSA is a different game all together. They do try that much people need to know, but they do not have the staff numbers to deal properly with the public.

    Dan.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 657 ✭✭✭flashinthepan


    Just looking back through call history it was 096 25000



  • Registered Users Posts: 418 ✭✭slystallone


    Anyone know the test route in Tralee for Bikes?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,436 ✭✭✭nigeldaniel


    It used to be from the test centre through St Josephs's est [u turn there] out by Gleasures funeral home out to Caherslee, mounthawk, John Shannon's bike shop and on to killeen road. then out to the MTU, i am not too sure of the rest but if I recall its passed the racecourse down to Bill Kinnerk road from there went on to the grayhound stadium and then back to the test centre. Watch out for the small roundabout at Upper Rock St, if they still do that one, it is very tricky due to all the traffic. Sometimes the U-turn is at the big wide lay by at the bottom of the greyhound stadium. that used to be the way in days gone by.

    Dan

    Dan.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,844 ✭✭✭geotrig


    Seen a few 4-5 doing their test the last 2 days out in Shannon and a few look like they are on practice runs ,its been a while since the last lot ,they seem to just do it in batches every now and again good luck to all !



  • Registered Users Posts: 547 ✭✭✭divillybit


    Hi all, I'm not a motorbike guy at all but it's kind of related to motorbikes I think. Just wondering if air filters on motorbikes use an oil to help trap particulates? I've read online that motorbike Air filters would have an oil additive but I'm not a bike guy so wanted to ask ye fellow boardsies.


    The reason I ask is that I've a 100cc chainsaw with an upgraded air filter with a removable plastic sponge like inner part that is meant to be coated lightly in a particular sticky grade of oil. I've tried several motor factors and they don't have it. There's not motorbike stores in my region so they will be my next stop when I'm passing one



  • Registered Users Posts: 13 ibanezkav


    Good morning everyone

    So, being told different things from people and said I would ask here. as it stands, I have my learner permit, waiting on IBT (backlog), I’m 30 years old. I was looking at 250cc just to tip along on at the start just to get familiar with the bike etc. i have been told a few times now to get a 600cc and restrict it. Once I go for a full test I have a 600. Anyone have insight if this is a good or bad idea?

    I was looking at Ninjas, and 600cc seems to be cheaper than 250cc. I guess that’s the usual DoneDeal pricing when one ups the price the rest follow suite.

    Any info or opinions would be appreciated.

    Thanks



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 657 ✭✭✭flashinthepan


    Yep there are some Air filter specific oils about

    But back in the day you could just use whatever you had lying about just dont drench it in the oil

    Rub in some oil and and squeeze out the excess

    Or you could buy

    https://www.xlmoto.ie/mc-parts/oils--lubricants_c2572/air-filter-oils--cleaners_c1924/a9-racing-air-filter-oil-spray-2-pack_pid-PP-043728



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,783 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    If you only have an A2 learner permit you'd need to restrict a 600. But if you have class A and pass IBT on a class A bike, then you can ride any bike unrestricted.

    Scrap the cap!



  • Registered Users Posts: 13 ibanezkav


    Oh great. I have an A class learner permit. Everyone was confusing me that I needed to restrict a 600 until I got a full license. Opens up a few more choices on bikes at least. Thanks



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 706 ✭✭✭ray o


    Just make sure you do your IBT on an A class bike. Now that may seem obvious but somone on here said previously that on their IBT course the instructor kept them on a lower cc bike because another student was struggling.



  • Registered Users Posts: 418 ✭✭slystallone


    What are people's experience of selling a bike privately. My one main issue, how do you stop someone just coming and driving it off into the sunset during a test drive.



  • Registered Users Posts: 650 ✭✭✭Pompous


    Just an idea, but you could tell them a test drive is available only on the condition they leave a government ID as deposit (driver's license, passport, etc. Not easy to forge).

    If you deal with someone through adverts.ie you could also be sure to only accept offers from people with a lot of positive feedback (100+ feedback with 98%+ positive).

    Judge of character is relevant too. The kind of person to steal a bike during a test drive is bound to give off "bad vibes", in my opinion. I would not rely on solely on this, but it can be used to deny the buyer any opportunity to test drive, with or without ID.

    If the person you are selling to has a problem with providing ID, my advice would be to not deal with them. Either they have ill-intentions or they lack the mental fortitude to understand the reasoning behind this requirement.

    Disclaimer: I do not have experience selling a (motor)bike. I have a lot of experience selling items privately.



  • Posts: 14,344 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    People always suggest that you agree a price and the buyer gives you the cash for the test drive.


    Personally, as a buyer, I wouldn't do this, as there's just as much chance that the bike's stole and the 'seller' will be long gone when I come back from the test ride.


    A good, middle-of-the-road idea is a deposit to be left with the seller. Small enough so that no one is tied into anything or "showing their hand" (incase the buyer wants to haggle) but also enough that the buyer isn't likely to want to hand it over if they plan to do a runner. Obviously the amount would depend on the value of the bike.


    Personally, for me, I bought a bike privately and I left my car keys with the seller, and my Driving License. He was happy with that, and knew I'd have to come back to get the car and driving license anyway, so..



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  • Registered Users Posts: 16 SKG


    Apologies if this has been discussed here recently but from where to buy a fat bike in Ireland currently?

    Seems almost no one is selling them? Looking for a brand new one, not used one. Would have to have decent components also.. Deore minimum.

    edit:

    Haha, just realized I posted under wrong forum😂

    Post edited by SKG on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,446 ✭✭✭LollipopJimmy


    They had one in the Cycle Superstore in Parnell Street but not even sure that place is still there.


    However this is the motorbike forum! 😊



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,748 ✭✭✭Bluefoam


    Harley Davidson in Ballymount do the FatBob...


    Dublin Loves bikes in Dun Laoghaire will be able to sort you out...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,572 ✭✭✭Skill Magill


    I have a Burgman 650 executive (2009)with very low miles and great condition, new oil, tyres and brakes are fine. Its the model with all the bells and whistles, electric screen, heated grips, heated seat - front and back, electric mirrors (great craic) charger in one of the 3 glove boxes, huge underseat storage and can easily plod along at 180km/hr. Haven't seen any other scooter that comes near its take off at lights, I'll be putting both my bikes up for sale soon and which ever sells first, I'll keep the other. (GSA 1200) You're welcome to take a look before I put it up, as you said, not that many of them around this parish.

    DM me if you're interested



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,249 ✭✭✭kbell


    Hi guys, looking at getting back on two wheels after 20 year break, i had a provisional up to 125cc, licence before,in 98/99, when i stopped riding.

    i never re added this category when i passed my car test in 2000.

    last year when i upgraded my license to the new plastic type i noticed that i now have category A motorbike added (restriction7903).

    my questions are,

    what does this currently allow me to drive? (could i buy a bike and up to what cc,and obtain insurance.)

    Do i still need to do a theory test, and then the ib course?

    sorry for all the questions, its seem very complicated, compaired to when i was a young fella.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,844 ✭✭✭geotrig


    7903 is for a trike only iirc , you will need to do an IBT and get a a provisional license for A Cat as far as I know, possibly a theory test as well



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,446 ✭✭✭LollipopJimmy


    Was out again tonight with RoSPA Iart. Some value and well worthwhile



  • Registered Users Posts: 458 ✭✭robbie_63


    Would be interested in something like this, you can never have too much training.

    Can you explain a bit more about it and how you find it?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 178 ✭✭Juggler101


    Hi all, advice needed for choosing a licence category (yes, like almost everyone else on this thread 🤣)

    I drove a 50 CC 20 years ago for short commutes. I have an AM licence, but I want to go up a level to A1, and I now have the learners permit for A1.

    I did CBT in the UK 20 years ago on a geared bike and wasn't mad on it. I'm happy to stay on scooters. I'll be using the bike for a 15km round trip to/from work, back roads mostly, and maybe 2 or three times a month doing a 40km round trip into Dublin city on N roads.

    I'm reading the thread from the start and I see EVERYONE recommends going for the A licence. However, that means doing the test on an A level bike, which means practicing regularly on a geared, A level bike. I just can't see myself on a big, geared bike. FYI, I'm a 5 foot 4 female.

    What should I do? If I changed my leaner to an A2, could I then do the test on a more powerful scooter or must it be a geared bike? I spotted a Suzuki Burgman 125 on Done Deal yesterday and thought it looked good, but checking the power on it, I see it's slightly above the A1 licence limits 😕

    My main worry is at some point regretting not going for a higher level. However, I have enough things to stress about without putting myself through a test at a level I don't need LOL



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,844 ✭✭✭geotrig


    You can use progression once in the system to go up one level once you pass the test at an assigned level . I.e do another day ibt.

    When I did my ibt there was a guy who was using the progression to move from a1 to a and all seemed ok, from a very foggy memory he start out on a 125 type scooter originally. My advise is all to stick with level you are comfortable with im almost certain he did his 1st test on an automatic VMAs? Or something and failed but iiirc if he passed on the auto he was limited to auto afterwards



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,553 ✭✭✭✭Varik


    If a bikes/scooters power is just above the A1 limit where you'd need a A2 license then the problem that it's probably too low to do the A2 test on even if it needs a A2 license.

    Instructors might not have anything larger than an automatic AM scooters to learn on for doing the IBT, so either you'd be doing that on a manual or the hours won't count if going for A1/A2 (instructor might cheat and put them down as counting but unlikely).

    For the IBT the modules differ a bit but most instructors will be flexible, and when you get to the on the bike part they can star you off on one and then move on if comfortable you might need a extra hour lesson or 2 to make up required time. A lot of people who start off on A bikes will get put on smaller bike for first bit by instructors before moving on, they're no so inflexible that they won't accommodate when you're unsure.

    There's a lot of 300-450cc scooters (there's a 400 Burgman), and even if you've no intention of getting on a manual A2 bike after the test I'd say go for that. You're already ahead of a lot of people starting out, and worst that happens is during the IBT you make your mind up one way or the other.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 178 ✭✭Juggler101


    Thanks for that. I'm happy enough to be limited to automatic to be honest. I'm not a petrol head, and I really just want a small, easy fuel efficient run around



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 178 ✭✭Juggler101


    Yes, that's my worry, that this slightly over A1 power bike won't be powerful enough for the A2 test. The RSA link on this thread doesnt seem to be working anymore, so I'll email them and ask them for the minimum spec for each of the test levels.

    Also, it might be difficult to get an A2 scooter for the test...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,553 ✭✭✭✭Varik


    The A1 test was 115cc to 125cc and less than 11kW

    The A2 is 20-35kW and more than 245cc, it used to be a larger engine size but they reduced it in the last year or so. You might still see it listed as 395cc some places.

    There's power to weight too but I those only apply to electric.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,748 ✭✭✭Bluefoam


    Just passed my A license! Absolutely delighted. I owe a big credit to Eric Dalton, he was exceptional. I was a bag of nerves and he got me into a really good place to take the test. In fairness, the lesson and pretest I did with him were great value, he put in a huge amount of hours.

    All done and free of the tabard.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,845 ✭✭✭knucklehead6


    Congratulations! Well done. I’d like to second the recommendation for Eric. He’s a genuinely calming presence to have in your corner beforehand.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,845 ✭✭✭knucklehead6


    Which test centre did you do it in?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,748 ✭✭✭Bluefoam




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 657 ✭✭✭flashinthepan


    Congratulations :-)

    Its great to get it out of the way

    Well Done



  • Registered Users Posts: 36 abmoto


    Congrats.

    Does the Naas test have a set route?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,748 ✭✭✭Bluefoam


    Naas has areas they regularly use, but I don't think there's any centre with an exact route (willing to be corrected on that). On my test I was directed to some roads I hadn't practiced on, but that didn't really bother me, once you know what they are looking for, the roads are less important.

    Naas is a good town to do it... Residential roads are relatively quiet, there's a reasonable selection of 50 and 60 mph roads and the traffic doesn't get too complicated.

    I had a 40 min ride to get there, but didn't mind it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,748 ✭✭✭Bluefoam


    Submitted my new license to the insurance company... no reduction in premium... even though no claims, no points, 45 y/o, reasonably low hp bike... more angry than I am gutted.



  • Registered Users Posts: 458 ✭✭robbie_63


    Yeah made no difference to me either, it seems to be the number of yrs riding that helps bring it down



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,844 ✭✭✭geotrig


    Same happened to me and when renewal came it went up 😅 cue some crazy attempt to justify it from the insurance guy but I was having none of it



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,748 ✭✭✭Bluefoam




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