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Dublin - Metrolink (Swords to Charlemont only)

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    #2882
    Murph85
    Registered Users Posts: 1,068 ✭✭✭Murph85


    Get planning for it. Once the recession hits, prices can drop and they can proceed. IF the tenders received shortly are madness...

    They have zero clue on the cost and 23,000,000,000 is as credible as 100,000,000,000. Even in this banana republic... Many of us here have and continue to pay large amounts of tax. In other countries, this gets you proper health, transport and child care services. They have large military expenditures. I think it's fair to ask, where is the money going in this kip ? Where is fifty percent over the pittance of 36000 euro going?



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    #2883
    Murph85
    Registered Users Posts: 1,068 ✭✭✭Murph85


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119417167#Comment_119417167

    More lies there. Imagine how much extra development and redevelopment Metro would facilitate. Including using the existing appalling options on offer...



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    #2884
    Murph85
    Registered Users Posts: 1,068 ✭✭✭Murph85


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119350758#Comment_119350758

    There is a huge difference, one option is highly dependable and segregated and very frequent. The other is a bus for ten km on single lane roads for the most part, with traffic light obsessed planners having lights every 50m. Ended up getting a taxi for E30, happy days !

    The dublincoach service from dundrum to airport via redcow was brilliant.typical it's gone too. Anything else is far too much messing about, before you even get to the airport...



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    #2885
    Pete_Cavan
    Registered Users Posts: 6,703 ✭✭✭Pete_Cavan


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119434032#Comment_119434032

    In anything I have seen, Varadkar has been very supportive of Metrolink (far more than anyone in FF who are more rural/Cork based), there is no reason to think that will change when me becomes Taoiseach.



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    #2886
    murphaph
    Registered Users Posts: 19,018 ✭✭✭✭murphaph


    He's also a TD in an area that would directly benefit hugely from metrolink. I used to live in his constituency and exchanged some emails about public transport with him and found him on top of things. I think he "gets it" more than many to be honest.



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    #2887
    cgcsb
    Registered Users Posts: 9,273 ✭✭✭cgcsb


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119436797#Comment_119436797

    Not really, his constituents have sunk costs in land rovers. He took steps against dart west because his looper mates operate illegal horse stables in Ashtown.



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    #2888
    murphaph
    Registered Users Posts: 19,018 ✭✭✭✭murphaph


    I'm not sure too many people in D15 drive Land Rovers to be honest. Only a small part of his constituency is what one would consider affluent. There aren't enough votes there to keep him in the Dáil.



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    #2889
    Murph85
    Registered Users Posts: 1,068 ✭✭✭Murph85


    Its really hilarious! Look after a handful of voters or what they think is in their best interest. The problem with this approach is, after decades of inaction, the non nimbies eventually become so disillusioned, they stop voting or vote for other parties out of frustration. Ffg wonder why they keep losing support. You cant keep spoofing the same people for decades, deliver nothing and then be surprised when even your original core voters start leaving you...

    Talking of varadkar, he has gone so far to the left. He will cancel metrolink and spend the money on welfare increases... its what rte and joe duffy would want...



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    #2890
    spacetweek
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 4,955 Mod ✭✭✭✭spacetweek


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119435865#Comment_119435865

    Except for the very large mistake he made when he told the press that the project could cost 23 billion. In a country like this, that is enough to scupper a project. It is the figure the media are reporting now.



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    #2891
    cgcsb
    Registered Users Posts: 9,273 ✭✭✭cgcsb


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119436946#Comment_119436946

    The ones that would vote FG would. These people are elected with a few thousand votes and scrape into power on the 11th count. The majority of their constituents won't feature on their radar



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    #2892
    Sam Russell
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 19,362 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sam Russell


    Is there any way the Gov can put the skids under ABP to get the railway order through in double quick time?

    They need it through and qualification to tender out asap.



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    #2893
    MyLove4Satan
    Registered Users Posts: 326 ✭✭MyLove4Satan


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119434032#Comment_119434032

    Considering he is pure evil and loved locking us down as long as he could get away with it you can be sure that snake will cancel it and be smirking while he is doing it.



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    #2894
    cgcsb
    Registered Users Posts: 9,273 ✭✭✭cgcsb


    I really hope if it is built they won't try to continue this 'metrolink' brand at operational phase, please just leave it at 'metro'



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    #2895
    spacetweek
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 4,955 Mod ✭✭✭✭spacetweek


    I wonder what colour they will assign it on maps. In early public transport plans it was always blue.



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    #2896
    L1011
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 67,625 Mod ✭✭✭✭L1011


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119451575#Comment_119451575

    Blue is the obvious next line colour, considering it will be in a system with Luas. Yellow for Lucan Luas if that goes ahead before the world burns.



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    #2897
    cgcsb
    Registered Users Posts: 9,273 ✭✭✭cgcsb


    It should definitely be on a map with DART and luas, maybe have thinner lines for the luas to indicate it's tram routes. It still hasn't been made public what DART 'lines' will operate in 2030. Will we have say a three line system:

    - Hazelhatch to GCD

    - Greystones to Drogheda with Howth spur

    - Spencer Dock to Maynooth/M3

    Or some other combination. Operating a three line system would mean an interchange has to be built at Glasnevin regardless of what happens with Metrolink.



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    #2898
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users Posts: 33,867 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119451582#Comment_119451582

    Think the sun will have turned into a red giant before that gets built

    Life ain't always empty.



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    #2899
    L1011
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 67,625 Mod ✭✭✭✭L1011


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119451914#Comment_119451914

    There are indicative service plans somewhere in the docs for DART+ West. A proportion of the Maynooth/M3 trains are shown as going to Bray; Hazelhatch to Spencer Dock as far as I remember. I'd expect Drogheda-Greystones with some Drogheda-GCD to make up the numbers then?



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    #2900
    cgcsb
    Registered Users Posts: 9,273 ✭✭✭cgcsb


    We'll find out I suppose but getting it right on a map is essential. A proper Dublin rail map has yet to be produced which doesn't inspire confidence. Visitors need to see how they're going to get around at a glance.



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    #2901
    loyatemu
    Registered Users Posts: 14,734 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    this is the latest attempt, it's not terrible TBF - at least it isn't trying to cram all the info into a shape designed to go above the Dart doors:

    image.png




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    #2902
    p_haugh
    Registered Users Posts: 1,117 ✭✭✭p_haugh


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119453108#Comment_119453108

    It's not that bad, but fails to mention stuff like the phoenix park tunnel branch is limited service, something a map like this definitely needs.

    Slightly OT: hopefully a similar network map is produced for the bus system once Bus Connects is fully implemented!



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    #2903
    L1011
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 67,625 Mod ✭✭✭✭L1011


    PPT and Docklands definitely should have markers for being limited service - Docklands is much more limited than PPT.



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    #2904
    MICKEYG
    Registered Users Posts: 749 ✭✭✭MICKEYG


    Would love if they could give lines Numbers and Letters.

    Maybe G for Green Line, R for red line - so G1 if heading to Broombridge, G2 if Parnell, G3 if Sandyford and G4 if Brides Glen (or something similar)



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    #2905
    L1011
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 67,625 Mod ✭✭✭✭L1011


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119453295#Comment_119453295

    Not going to happen, primarily due to BusConnects using that format



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    #2906
    loyatemu
    Registered Users Posts: 14,734 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    other than the existing Dart and Luas, they're all relatively limited service lines - they're certainly not high-frequency, turn-up-and-go type services.



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    #2907
    Zebra3
    Registered Users Posts: 13,851 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119453302#Comment_119453302

    Maybe use numbers first and letters second for rail/tram services?



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    #2908
    murphaph
    Registered Users Posts: 19,018 ✭✭✭✭murphaph


    I think we can stick with colours for all rail. It's not like we're in any danger of running out of them any time soon ;-)



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    #2909
    cgcsb
    Registered Users Posts: 9,273 ✭✭✭cgcsb


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119453108#Comment_119453108

    Thats a fair attempt alright and the development of dart + will probably tidy it up a but more.



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    #2910
    D.L.R.
    Registered Users Posts: 1,282 ✭✭✭D.L.R.


    Ireland not setting the transit map world alight, that's for sure.



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    #2911
    LXFlyer
    Registered Users Posts: 17,542 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer



    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119460028#Comment_119460028

    The rail map above does clearly state “tram” for the LUAS lines.



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