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Climate Bolloxolgy.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,948 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    I can see the logic of multi variety crops , (wether it's grass or cereals ) ,but even more the idea of multi- species crops ,

    So field beans and peas , or wheat- red clover, especially if it's going to be used for crimping or alkalage it makes the harvesting timing a bit easier ...

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,278 ✭✭✭ginger22




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,248 ✭✭✭vincenzolorenzo


    Is there anything in the development of different varieties that is linked to the increase in the numbers of people who are gluten intolerant. Even 20 years ago you'd very rarely hear of anyone who was coeliac, I'd never even heard of the word gluten. Then it seemed like every second person you met couldn't eat gluten. Is there anything in the actual crop that could cause it, or was it a fad?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,420 ✭✭✭Gawddawggonnit




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,420 ✭✭✭Gawddawggonnit


    I’ve tried companion cropping. The best results were from wheat/lucerne, but due to disease problems I can’t grow lucerne any more.

    I’ve yet to see two crops at the same time to be any good. You’ll have 2 or 3 poor crops, whereas one crop on its own could be excellent.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,420 ✭✭✭Gawddawggonnit


    My theory.

    I suffered badly as a coeliac when living in Ireland. Moved to France and never had a problem. I reckon that it’s the preservatives in the bread etc are what caused it. No preservatives here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,954 ✭✭✭White Clover




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,420 ✭✭✭Gawddawggonnit




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,501 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    I joined a regenerative forum years ago on another forum. Went to Nots talks too.

    I'm from the so called conventional side of agriculture but with a lean I suppose towards what is called regenerative. I aspire to the techniques.

    However at the start I could see maybe a little self praise from some in the movement that they thought they were immune from what I could see was vegan warfare disquised as environmental awareness on farmers. The movement thought they were safe and had it made for a quiet life.

    Fast forward five years and now George Monbiot has taken the environmental campaign by storm with his attacks on regenerative farming with livestock. You've even got John Gibbons who was a chair of Biofarm for the last two years attacking regenerative farmers and backing Monbiot. Ye've failed Nots, in having him as a chair. He took your money and laughed in your face.

    It's the movement of Veganism now ingrained in environmentalism and now Irish environmental speakers.

    The war is lost imo.

    And all because Monbiot said he ate a petri dish of bacteria made from hydrogen. No question of it from our esteemed campaigners bar it's the excuse and rallying point to attack regenerative farming with livestock.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,948 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    No , that's more for grain , the red clover is supposed to give late nitrogen to the growing wheat .. ( got a bit carried away ) .

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,471 ✭✭✭Grueller


    My friend is a chef and reckons it's a fad. He says the size of the arse tells whether the person is actually a coeliac or not.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,420 ✭✭✭Gawddawggonnit


    Lucerne is the only companion crop that ever worked for me. It’ll stay low and because it’s got a huge root it’ll recover quickly into a forage crop once the wheat is taken off. It doesn’t interfere in any way with the wheat, just pumps N, but after harvest once it’s not shaded out, it takes off.

    Lablab and maize works very well also but it’s thirsty.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,420 ✭✭✭Gawddawggonnit


    I must measure me arse. Does your mate reckon that smaller arses are proportional or inversely proportional to the susceptibility to coeliac disease?

    I have to know.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,420 ✭✭✭Gawddawggonnit


    That is the type of shyte that I would rail against. I know this fella. He agrees that burning fossil fuels is what’s (supposedly?) causing climate change, but everyone should put their shoulder to the wheel to limit its impact. My argument is..if bovines didn’t cause it, then why should they pay for it?

    If Apple or Google etc had a solution that ameliorated warming emissions then governments would be clambering all over themselves to throw money at them? Then throw that money to livestock farmers for that ‘quick and efficient’ solution .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,104 ✭✭✭Lime Tree Farm


    I think he meant broad beams/wide loads result from devouring too much gluten



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,420 ✭✭✭Gawddawggonnit




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,471 ✭✭✭Grueller


    Small arse for coeliac. He says that the amount of them that are coeliac until the dessert serving appears and then they forget it is substantial.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,890 ✭✭✭green daries


    That's gas 😁🙃 had heard similar off restaurant staff and owners



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 53,397 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    having heard my (genuinely) coeliac friend talk about some experiences she's had with restaurant staff, i'd take their opinions with a rather large pinch of salt.

    i'd have taken the opinions of restaurant staff on the topic with a large pinch of salt regardless.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,085 ✭✭✭jackboy


    Your not supposed to question those people, they are our betters. It’s the farmers with their belching cows that are destroying the planet.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,278 ✭✭✭ginger22




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,471 ✭✭✭Grueller


    The sisters wedding in 2009 had 180 guests. 1 coeliac.

    The brothers in 2019 had 210 guest. 19 coeliac.

    We were just discussing this the other day, the brother is a lactose intolerant, slightly gluten sensitive, vegetarian. Maybe its just a coincidence but that sounds like a fad to me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,420 ✭✭✭Gawddawggonnit


    Plant the lucerne year one. Nirvana will control the weeds. Take whatever cuts that the lucerne produces. Year two, when the lucerne is well established, cut to 4 inches, and direct drill the wwheat into the lucerne. The lucerne will not interfere with the wheat because it stays low. Once the combine has taken the wheat the lucerne takes off. Because of the root in lucerne it’s almost impossible to kill. Glyphosate at 9L/ha won’t kill it. In fact if weeds do creep into the lucerne a squib of glyphosate during winter dormancy works a treat.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,104 ✭✭✭Lime Tree Farm


    Of those that I am aware of, who are coeliac all are somehow related. Their parents or grandparents all originated from the same locality.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,471 ✭✭✭Grueller


    I am no expert but the one coeliac that I know has a horrendous time with it. Any gluten slips in at all and he really feels it. He was the one guest at my sisters wedding with it. He has 11 kids, and 31 grandchildren and not one of that cohort is affected thankfully.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,547 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    I won't say I'm ceoliac but I'm better off if I don't eat bread, scones milk etc , etc so why bother with it.

    Christmas is a nightmare, I hate to see all the food coming into the house. Christmas is a great way of passing rubbish around the country, I dumped most of the contents of the drinks cabinet before last Christmas yet it's full of drink again that neither of us drink ,

    Once a week is enough for dessert hence the people taking it when dining out

    but it's not like a peanut allergy where you drop to the ground.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 53,397 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    i remember reading a story ~15 years ago in new scientist (and probably significantly, have not heard anything on the topic since) that some scientists were examining a theory that people might have had an intolerance to another chemical/protein also present alongside gluten, but in much smaller quantities. the working theory was that because it was present in much smaller quantities, it didn't cause reactions as severe as a coeliac would experience, but would lead to people complaining of what they assumed was gluten intolerance.

    anyway, as mentioned, i haven't heard anything about it since so i suspect that was a dead end.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,681 ✭✭✭endainoz


    The one that always made me feel unsettled is that a person can become a coeliac later in life, so that's something to possibly look forward to.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,104 ✭✭✭Lime Tree Farm


    Just heard a coeliac interview on BBC re GF shopping. Guaranteed gluten free cost 3 times more with GF label for products with same ingredients not listed as being GF. Companies put it down cost of testing the product. eg porridge oats which can have traces of gluten included in production process. The interviewers were both coeliac - diagnosed by a blood test

    There is a gluten free app for Supermarkets



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,415 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    That's the sensible approach, if something doesn't suit your system don't eat it.

    Maybe increased awareness is the reason more people are sensibly taking steps to avoid foods that don't suit them.

    Coeliac Disease itself is a very real and serious condition and has been diagnosed for many years.

    Just a footnote on that drinks cabinet, there is no need to dump spirits, they last for years. You might consider passing them on to someone who will enjoy them.



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