What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

Re the car incident, public opinion will all come down to who is the most credible when pushed on this in public.

Ms Hutchinson was very credible in the way she described what she was told. She was aware that she was under oath. She has no skin in the game so to speak, when she describes what she was told, amongst the myriad of other crimes she describes taking place. What good is in it for her to lie about something crazy like this? Something she knows will be denied by the others if it isn’t true and which will raise questions marks over everything else she says? It isn’t as if all the other things she said weren't truly damning in themselves. Are they all said out of spite or something?

On the other hand the others will be asked the same questions and they will all have to have good poker faces if they lie..

But reasoning it out I do think it was said to her, it remains to be seen as to why it was said, and not corrected by the others present, if it wasn't actually true.

And I think it would be foolish of the committee to lead her into making that statement, and potentially open to question her honesty under oath, if they couldn't corroborate it some other way.

The beast doesn't have a second row of seats in it. Can't link to a picture right now, but it's there to see

Whether he grabbed the wheel or not, tbh it isn't that important.

The real story was that Trump knew the crowd had weapons, knew they were targeting Pence, and not only failed to do anything to stop it but actually tired to make things easier for the crowd.

All that nonsense that they were just there to talk, that Trump didn't encourage them. That has all been shown up for the rubbish it always was.

I would also say that if there is someone who can refute it they should do so under path. I am not willing to discard this story if no one is willing to go against it outside of "unnamed sources".

Indeed other things have been shown and they should focused on if it does turn out to be untrue. I do think it hurts though and is utterly pointless if it isn't true.

They sure went from ignoring the hearings to giving it their undivided attention really quick though

Bullshit MountainTM ran out of steam

Lev Parnas sentenced today for 20 months in prison for his role in the scheme to launder Russian money into the Trump campaign

Her testimony was not hearsay.

According to an anonymous source who isn't in the Secret Service, hey.

The committee has not had anyone come forward to identify themselves as willing to contradict her testimony under penalty of perjury.

CASSIDY HUTCHINSON: When I returned to the White House, I walked upstairs towards the chief of staff's office, and I noticed Mr. Ornato lingering outside of the office. Once we had made eye contact, he quickly waved me to go into his office, which was just across the hall from mine. When I went in, he shut the door, and I noticed Bobby Engel, who was the head of Mr. Trump's security detail, sitting in a chair, just looking somewhat discombobulated and a little lost.

I looked at Tony and he had said, did you f'ing hear what happened in the beast? I said, no, Tony, I — I just got back. What happened? Tony proceeded to tell me that when the president got in the beast, he was under the impression from Mr. Meadows that the off the record movement to the Capitol was still possible and likely to happen, but that Bobby had more information.

So, once the president had gotten into the vehicle with Bobby, he thought that they were going up to the Capitol. And when Bobby had relayed to him we're not, we don't have the assets to do it, it's not secure, we're going back to the West Wing, the president had a very strong, a very angry response to that.

Tony described him as being irate. The president said something to the effect of I'm the f'ing president, take me up to the Capitol now, to which Bobby responded, sir, we have to go back to the West Wing. The president reached up towards the front of the vehicle to grab at the steering wheel. Mr. Engel grabbed his arm, said, sir, you need to take your hand off the steering wheel.

We're going back to the West Wing. We're not going to the Capitol. Mr. Trump then used his free hand to lunge towards Bobby Engel. And Mr. — when Mr. Ornato had recounted this story to me, he had motioned towards his clavicles.

LIZ CHENEY: And was Mr. Engel in the room as Mr. Ornato told you this story?

CASSIDY HUTCHINSON: He was.

LIZ CHENEY: Did Mr. Engel correct or disagree with any part of this story from Mr. Ornato?

CASSIDY HUTCHINSON: Mr. Engel did not correct or disagree with any part of the story.

LIZ CHENEY: Did Mr. Engel or Mr. Ornato ever after that tell you that what Mr. Ornato had just said was untrue?

CASSIDY HUTCHINSON: Neither Mr. Ornato nor Mr. Engel told me ever that it was untrue.

A rebuttal to your first bullshit is above, care to address that?

A relief then for Trump that this is the aspect of her testimony they dispute.

Not any of the other points she flagged that they were witness to.

He must be so relieved we hear nothing from them about how he encouraged an armed mob to attempt to take over Congress and steal an election by force, but that they disagree that he tried to strangle his secret service agent. He really is one of the good guys.