What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

Texas isn't going to secede.

But it would be an engrossing experiment to say the least from a schadenfreude POV. It would make Brexit look like the greatest idea of all time. The place would become a pariah in no time, in it's own continent and around the world.

“Breaking:

Mo Brooks asked for a pardon.

Matt Gaetz asked for a pardon.

Andy Biggs asked for a pardon.

Louie Gohmert asked for a pardon.

Scott Perry asked for a pardon.”

Totally normal.

Republicans learning it's hard to wash off the Q once you slap it on

He's on the record, on the phone, talking to the Georgia Secretary of State, saying he wanted the SoS to find him several thousand extra votes. Based on nothing, by the way. Based on no evidence. That was the then-sitting POTUS asking for an illegal reversal of the result of the presidential election in Georgia.

And then we have Trump going to the Capitol on the day that the election was to be certified and repeated his claim. Based on nothing. No evidence. No successful court cases. Not a leg to stand on. He went down there and told lies. He's a liar. Not even an artful liar. The lying skills of a 4 year old. He knew the mob didn't need any convincing, though. They'd believe anything he said. That was the then-sitting POTUS literally riling up a mob of angry supporters live on TV.

Does anyone here think Trump would have said boo if the mob had actually managed to breach the interior of the Capitol and actually managed to somehow overturn the election. Does anyone think he'd have come out and gone, "This isn't democracy... This isn't what I wanted... Stop now." The testimony coming out of the hearings makes it ever clearer that he was waiting to see what happened, and he only came out to say something at the point he knew the mob had failed. He made one short speech to save his hide, vacated the office in disgrace, and then was back after a short holiday to say that, actually, maybe the mob wasn't so bad.

It would be surprising if this kind of thing even happened back in the days when a U.S. president might challenge someone to a dual with pistols for besmirching his honour on a Sunday, never mind the modern day. People talking like it doesn't matter would want to get a grip. To be honest, we know where their agenda lays, out in lala-land where they think Joe Biden, who in any other country would be seen as centre-right, is some sort of cheerleader for the (woman shrieking) radical left. Absolute insanity.

I found today's hearing very engaging. The blow by blow account of the various meetings where Trump tried to replace AG Jeffrey Rosen with Jeff Clarke were fascinating, mostly due to testimony by Rosen and his assistants where they describe in no uncertain terms how utterly unqualified and unsuitable Clarke was for the role of AG.

There was a last minute meeting in the oval with Trump, Rosen, Clarke, and various other people who were all on Rosen's side. For about two hours, they tried to explain to Trump why Clarke would be a disastrous AG. They were using various legal, constitutional and procedural arguments together with Clarke's inexperience but Trump was having none of it. Referring to the likely mass resignations in the DoJ that would follow Clarke's appointment, one of the assistant AGs said that Clarke would be left managing a graveyard. They said that is when Trump changed his mind.

To me, that illustrates how Trump's brain works. He can't really assimilate any complex arguments but when it is boiled down to a simple image of a graveyard, he finally gets it.

The problem is even if convicted and not able to run, he will go next best option and roll out one of the sprogs and rule through them or a Rudy type joke but who many will still vote for if they pucker up kiss Trumps ring. It might be better to see the organ grinder then a succession of monkeys.

Trumps biggest gripe imo is that he has the misfortune to only be able to gain power in a democratic country with so far checks and balances holding.

What he really wants and envies is people and situations like Russia and ruling by decree like Putin. I really think he thought he could rule by decree, look at the blizzard of Presidential orders he made early on, then he came up against the system of checks and balances which as I say, held for 4 years but I really doubt will survive another 4 years.

I read that as "Marge seems a bit defective".

It checks out!

Thankfully these guys are so utterly stupid...

I mean, Navarro just went on TV and dug himself an even deeper hole. The mind boggles...

Notice how she's leaving out all the people who participated in the storming of the US Capitol, and Trump himself. Even ol' Madge agrees that they shouldn't be spared.

he put it in writing!!

I've read some crazy conspiracies about the election but this one tops them all

Yeah. You had your chance when your golden idol was in the White House Marge. Instead the number of charges went up against Assange and the administration considered him “an enemy of the America”.

Death - he's 76