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Old Bank of Ireland buildings

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  • 10-05-2022 11:05am
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    Looking for some light to be thrown on something. There’s an old BoI building coming up soon For sale near me. Fine building, has even a garden. Rumour has it these cannot be sold as private dwellings. Any info on this please?



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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 67,622 Mod ✭✭✭✭L1011


    It would need change of use planning to be used as a residence, so you are not going to get a residential mortgage to buy it.

    If it has been out of use for over two years it may be planning exempt for conversion, but don't expect to get a mortgage on a maybe.

    If you can fund it otherwise, it is likely that permission would be given for conversion unless its completely off the wall for use as a house - e.g. the prominent commercial building on a main street of a large town. Your description doesn't seem to suggest that!



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Thanks for that excellent summary. It’s not in a large town and because of its build it is reasonably prominent but I don’t think that would be an issue. It sounds like a good turnaround for a purchase with private funding. Thanks again.



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 67,622 Mod ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Obviously check (get a solicitor to check) for any weird legal caveats in the paperwork before bidding. But its unlikely its anything other than it being a bank not a house currently meaning it can't be sold to someone who is borrowing for a house.



  • Registered Users Posts: 24,146 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    Many older banks in smaller towns / villages would have had accommodation above the offices for the manager and his family (sounds like this could be the case with the one you're looking at if it has a garden) so you may find it's already zoned as mixed commercial/residential. Might make finance easier.



  • Registered Users Posts: 14,001 ✭✭✭✭Dav010


    Be aware, if it is an old BOI building there is a good chance that it is a protected structure. This may not prevent you from altering the internal of the building, but it sure means the planners will scrutinise what you want to do, and how you do it. From experience of renovating an old protected building, it can be expensive and infuriating if the planner is a knob.



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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 67,622 Mod ✭✭✭✭L1011


    In BOI cases, they sometimes had that in big towns too - the former BOI on O'Connell Street in Dublin still had someone living in the managers apartment when I was doing work there ~9 years ago (for the new tenant of the old banking hall).

    Possibly the only person actually living full time on that street!



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,038 ✭✭✭Be right back


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,916 ✭✭✭0ph0rce0


    Well there goes that guys dream 😂



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 67,622 Mod ✭✭✭✭L1011




  • Registered Users Posts: 6,160 ✭✭✭Claw Hammer


    If a building is not an existing residence a change of use will require that it be brought up to the current standard of building regulations. That includes wiring and BER. It could be a very expensive exercise even if it is not a protected structure. Bank buildings are invariably in major streets and carrying out building work can be very awkward not to mention dealing with an old building.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 24,146 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    There are obvious advantages to these old buildings too though: you'll have a nice looking exterior, high ceilings, potentially beautiful tiled/parquet flooring, lots of mahogany from the cashier desks / counter-tops (that even if you're removing could be reworked into bespoke kitchen furniture or even sold on for decent money) and the property certainly wouldn't be lacking in character!



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 67,622 Mod ✭✭✭✭L1011


    There is a wide-ranging exemption from change of use to residential currently, but only if the building is out of use for over two years (and there are other conditions). Many of these banks closed Autumn 2021.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,160 ✭✭✭Claw Hammer


    The exemption is from planning permission not from building regulations. It doesn't apply in the case of listed buildings either.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,031 ✭✭✭lomb


    No one enforces building regs in Ireland.You can basically just work away. The building regs are the last of the problems (except if you sell of course) You may need to subcontract jobs as a real contractor may not be interested in not following regs.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Haven’t been here in a while but just saw the replies. Thanks all round.



  • Registered Users Posts: 78,243 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    Depending on the bank's space requirements, many of these were converted to offices.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,160 ✭✭✭Claw Hammer


    To avail of the change of uses exemption you have to notify the Local Authority in advance that you are going to avail of it.

    That may well trigger an inspection at some point. Even if not at that point, no way can anyone get a mortgage on the building unless everything is certified. It would be foolhardy to think a building can be bought and converted from one planning use category to another without complying with building regulations and there would be no adverse repercussions. The downsides could be very severe if things go wrong.



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