Tams farmyard plan

Yep as Cavanjack said a ruler and pen is all that’s needed for the farmyard plan.

It always works out cheaper to go for the grant if you can get it and you’ll have a superior job done also.

Farm yard plan at a scale of either 1:100 or 1:250 which ever is most suitable. Farmyard plan has to have outline of building and and major features. I used a print out of Google maps to that scale and traced over it.

The plan of the crush will have to be to a scale or 1:100 or 1:50 whichever is most suitable again. This will have to be detailed and measurements indicated. This is what the Dept will work off for cost. Even the area of new concrete floor will have to be clearly indicated, lengths of gates and barriers, clean and dirty water drainage paths, etc.

You may have to get planning or a planning exemption from the council for this job for TAMS grant.

I did one for a crush a few years ago here at the 60% grant, did the drawings submitted the paper work for the application myself and got a letter back looking for a planning exemption. Submitted the drawings, letter and images of the proposed style of gates and barrier to give a representation of the elevations to the council for an exemption. No problems and a letter back 8 week later granting it. Dept even came out to measure the job when the claim was submitted. Again they were very helpful with any queries and are encouraging farmers to submit their own applications if they can. Very interesting stat they gave was less than 5% of all applications were submitted by farmers, rest by advisors. This included even the small and the simple jobs. They want to see more farms do the small and simple ones.

Would I do it again with TAMS?? The simple answer is yes, got 60% grant aid and the vat back. Made it a cheap job, but I made it cheaper, by doing the paperwork and construction work myself. If I had to get someone to do both of these it would have eating a good chunk of the grant money. No grant I would have done a cheap job, the grant let me have a lifetime job, that safe on man and beast, but most importantly time saving

Big thing is to read the dept spec documents carefully, they are the Bible's that you have to work to

Had to as it was sloped and required to get a reduced fall. Between ripping out the old crush and dealing with slope it wasn't worthwhile to try to keep it. it can be as easy to concrete it all in as you will have a load of posts close together. It will help to tie everything together. Was only 2-3 inch thick and was going to crack. Also put concrete in an area adjoining the area. You will be grant aided on concrete

Be careful as you can't have a crush against a block wall.

Grant purposes from the spec documents

Adjoining yard as ancillary concrete. Anything you concrete you will have to watch drainage of water and avoid clean water and dirty water mixing

Would a silt trap be enough?

Clean water can go to a drain. Water from the Cattle area is soiled water and needs storage for I think 1 day. This is to allow you to clean it and then its not soiled water

All of the above spot on.

Price of steel has driven the reference prices out of line. Personally I would sit it out for year and see where the price of steel land. Gets the ducks in a row for the application and wait a bit of time before submitting it. Once you receive approval you have a year to complete the job

Wonder how long is the approval process

No he does not need planning for a crush/nor does he need an exemption. If he can follow the user manual he will be well capable of submitting it himself.

He needs to price doing the grant to the spec required vs non grant spec. He can put in his own labour costs for labour work done by himself.

He could possibly get ancillary concrete with the crush and get a cheap yard done.

Approval takes approx 2 months after closing of tranche.

No, you do not need planning or an exemption for a pen or crush.

All you need is a sheet of A4 paper, a ruler, pen, computer, scanner and a few brain cells between the ears! I doubt there’s too many houses in the country that would be missing much from that list.

A crush and pen is one of the most economical applications you can make. The materials you’ll be using should be the same whether grant spec or non grant and if you’ve the time you can complete most of the labour yourself and submit the working hours up to the maximum allowance for the project also. A lad that would be handy at the work could end up with the cost of the materials almost fully paid for by the grant amount after providing his own time.

The days of lads putting a few bits of bent tubing that was taken out of somewhere else in the yard or using timber rails are long gone. A crush and pen needs to be done once and done both right and safe.

Unless you’ve plenty of money to throw away or access to sufficient materials for free then anyone putting in a crush and pen should never even consider doing it without a grant.

If that’s the case then I stand corrected but I applied for one back in 2016 and there was no request for planning from me then.

Even still, unless it’s a very small crush/pen, financially you will be better off getting the planning and going the grant route as long as you can wait the extra few months for planning.

Definitely not for sheds, not certain if it can be just got with a crush.

Yes planning or planning/exemption is required for almost all fixed investments under TAMS. And that includes a new fixed crush.