Picard 2x09 - 'Hide and Seek' ~~ { ** Spoilers Within ** }

They don't mention it in the article saying someone must die pretending to be Renées or is it possible they maybe hinting at split timelines where both 'Confederation' and 'Prime' timeline exist, creating another Mirror Universe?

Note:- I was tempted to spoiler tag that quote, but as it has been mentioned already in the thread, don't see the need.

Oh no! I'm sooo torn!

On the one hand.. sure this could all just be a Q type time thing so no loose ends.. hell even nothing happened to begin with

On the other hand... returning to the future to see what becomes of this new version of the Borg!!

Also lol, totally called how crap the drones would be 😁 They made up for em in numbers I guess.

I swear .. Raffi and Seven .. like.. I dunno.. but like.. uh huh 🤪

Awful everything.

Plot contrivances, dreadful acting, bonkers story.

Borgs with machine-guns. Wtf. Someone had to sit down and write this **** and it made it all the way to production. And why is Seven so blood thirsty? "These are BORGS >:-(" *zap* *zap*. These guys are barely infected -- what happened to stun setting? I hate that we're doing mindless, essentially-faceless, phaser-fodder in Star Trek these days. The Ensign Lynch's of this world deserve their solemn moments of reflection, damn it.

The composited / CGI exterior shots around the chateau are embarrassing. That shot with Spinner "standing on the lawn" with drones just mindlessly swaying side-to-side beside him was painful to witness. And just lots of silly things that break the disbelief, like Spinner being there at all or "we're borgs now so everything is green lights!". Transporters turn green when the Borgs are in control. All the guns have green lasers on them, ha! Remember Borgs?! Lasers?! AmIrigtht?!? Because Borgs have green lasers. That's what makes them cool.

Ugh, those flash backs. "ohhh, I knooow, we'll play hide-y seek like I did as a boy, mmmm". And bloody hell, going from pantomime villainy with the Borgs Queen to Picard's witnessing his mother's death was some tone shift.

Rafi and Seven have no chemistry whatsoever. It's a pity because Seven could still be interesting otherwise.

Soong is only there because he's Brent Spiner. He's just showing up and doing whatever at this point. Walking around like an underworld heavy, getting shot at, making speaches, surrounded by goons with guns. The guy was a relatively meek malpracticing scientist a few episodes ago. And where'd he go at the end there? The gun exploded, he dodged out the open door... and that's that? (I bet he's hiding away on the queen's ship)

I can't even start with the "borg are just lonely" thing.

You know I actually do think they have 3 or 4 reasonably decent episodes worth of stories going on in this season of Picard, but mashing them altogether and then stretching it all out over 10 episodes just does not work for them. I think I'd tolerate a few sub-par or even poor episodes to have just one golden-hour of a story we know Star Trek can tell. But anything good here, and there are shades of it, is just drip-fed too slowly and then drown out by all the rest.

What an absolute joke 😕

Jurati even kinda name dropping "Discovery" when trying to win over the evil Borg Queen using feelings.

So did Jurati have control of her body when she told (oh shall I go with this name) ECHnor to attack or was she somehow able to hear the voice in her head?

And he had all the emotions and thought up until Elnor's last breath? How does that work?

Also, isn't he invulnerable, being a hologram? So he should've easily dispatched the bad guys.

Did the Queen travel back to the future? Otherwise it would mess up the timeline.

It was night and they went to the tunnels yet was still all pretty well lit? How did that happen?

On the Borg as far as I am concerned this will just be a splinter group like Hugh's Borg. Out there somewhere are the actually scary ones we know and love.

If all the good and bad in the episode the bit I can't stop thinking about all morning is.

Why the hell do the Sirena transporters turn green when they transport the Borg. It's the Solo space train all over again.

@AMKC

Aren't we seeing 'Picards' memories from 'Prime', that is what I thought, as all of the main cast have their memories intact?

Seven remembering been Borg for example.

Hes gone senile none of it's true. His mother was a happy old woman with a French accent.

Still watching the episode but that's the exact opposite of what divide and conquer means.

EDIT: And then they literally bring a knife to a gunfight, this is getting very silly.

EDIT 2: Why would you hit a hologram on the nose?

Icheb was seen in a Starfleet uniform in their own fkin show but yet Starfleet are anti Borg. Maybe 7 is just comforting herself with that excuse.

How did Seven and Raffi cross the large area between the house and the ship, armed with basically nothing? Borg enhanced soldiers appear to be less competent than regular soldiers.

• Starfleet rejecting Seven because she used to be Borg is just nonsense

Yes I agree totally and that is exactly what I thought too.

• Seven coincidentally getting the exact same implants back
• Evil La Sirena going to warp while still in the atmosphere

Ye you can just see the writers now "oh I know let's make it go to warp in the atmosphere because that would be cool" not.