Would you fight for Dublin like Ukrainians are for Kyiv?

arthursway · 17-03-2022 4:25am #1

If a foreign superpower was invading us like Russia is Ukraine,

How many of you would stay and fight and be willing to die for this country?

Our capital has given so many so much in recent times.

Would it be a case of those who have prospered most on six figures for tech companies pissing off to safe locations while lower classes forced to stay picking up arms to defend this country?

Would you put your life on the line for this countries independence or would you go to a safe place and virtue signal on social media how you donated to the cause on some fundraiser?

Would you be willing to die for Dublin like the brave people of Kyiv have been willing to die for their beloved Ukraine?

[Deleted User] · 17-03-2022 4:31am

Absolutely not.

If I could get myself and my family somewhere safe, that's what I would do.

I would fight to protect my love ones, not a place.

arthursway · 17-03-2022 4:36am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118796784#Comment_118796784

I understand what your saying your family is paramount.

But would you not send them to a safe country and stay yourself and fight for this beautiful country like our forefathers did for our independence???

10000maniacs · 17-03-2022 4:39am

Our ancestors did when it was last required.

arthursway · 17-03-2022 4:40am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118796788#Comment_118796788

Would you do the same?

10000maniacs · 17-03-2022 4:42am

Hell yeah if the English did the same again.

arthursway · 17-03-2022 4:47am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118796790#Comment_118796790

I don't think it will be the English next time but would be happy to fight beside you 👍

10000maniacs · 17-03-2022 4:52am

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Glad to hear it. But the whole thread is hypothetical, and that war of independence is our only frame of reference war wise.

JeffKenna · 17-03-2022 4:59am

Not Dublin no, Cork yes.

freshpopcorn · 17-03-2022 5:06am

I'd like to think I would but realistically I wouldn't be wanted.

I'd just go around bunping into people leave stuff fall and get in everybody's way.

arthursway · 17-03-2022 5:06am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118796801#Comment_118796801

As a cork man from the Northside I can proudly say the Russians would never take knocknaheeny.

Strumms · 17-03-2022 5:40am

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Cork no, Termonfeckin yes.

would I stay and fight ? Yes if I was given significant resources, automatic weapons, body armour etc…

im not going to take on the Russians with my set of Japanese steak knives and a baseball bat…

Our defence forces are woefully under equipped to repel any sort of organised or maybe unorganised force so if the Russian’s come…it’s…как дела ребята, похоже дождь…

MakersMark · 17-03-2022 5:49am

I'd leave and let the Welfare class fight for me, for 2 reasons.

1. Least they could do after all the taxes I've paid.

2. Since British dole is only £55 a week, they'd fight like rabid Spartan warriors to keep their unending Irish benefits!

[Deleted User] · 17-03-2022 6:40am

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No.

OneEightSeven · 17-03-2022 7:27am

If I was alive during the invasions/rebellions, I would have fought in them. I wouldn't join an army that fights foreign wars but part of me wishes I was in Ukraine shooting down Russian helicopters with stingers or blowing up tanks with javelins, but Ukraine has conscription so I would just be a liability.

BingCrosbee · 17-03-2022 8:08am

I’d let the travellers do the fighting. They could video themselves in the process and it would give them something useful to do.

malk518 · 17-03-2022 8:29am

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The wouldn't make it past Baker's road!

brokenangel · 17-03-2022 8:42am

Depends on which part, to be honest they could have a few sections of the city and fight for the rest

Some parts of Dublin if they actually took over them and had to deal with the locals I would expect that would be a better tactic than any gun fight to get rid of teh invaders

TheValeyard · 17-03-2022 9:35am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118796803#Comment_118796803

You could be our bullet absorber!

Jim2007 · 17-03-2022 9:41am

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Except they did not fight for a beautiful country… I grew up in my grand uncle’s a veteran of the war of independence and for most of the war a member of a very active flying column. And I was lucky enough to have known many of the veterans in old age. I can’t recall any of them fighting for a beautiful country, it was always about the people and the way they were treated. The discussion in old age was always about the people and how their lot could be improved.

Would I fight yes, have I served yes. But it was drilled into me from a young age - “there is no point in having principles boy, if you are not willing to stand up for them”

Gael23 · 17-03-2022 9:44am

I wouldn’t risk my life for it no

StevenToast · 17-03-2022 9:44am

I note how any thread ends up having a pop at the welfare class and travellers....never change boards...never change!

PokeHerKing · 17-03-2022 9:47am

Id like to say I'd fight. I'm certainly republican minded. In saying that, very hard to say for sure. Fight or flight kicks in and you wont know what you're made of until its real.

Similar to Ukraine though, if you dont get out early you won't be allowed leave. Once you can't leave you certainly will fight as not much option for anything else.

sydthebeat · 17-03-2022 9:54am

If all military aged men were conscripted, how many of ye would refuse and bring the shame of cowardice down on your family's name?

brokenangel · 17-03-2022 10:02am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118797061#Comment_118797061

The majority. The fact most people in Ireland don't know which end of a gun is the right one is a problem but a lot of them would be running as soon as trouble comes around the corner.

We have a huge population who think been a hard man on the internet means they are a hard man in real life.

Fuascailteoir · 17-03-2022 10:06am

Depends on if an energetic charismatic leader emerged. If it was martin asking then I would consider siding with the invaders

[Deleted User] · 17-03-2022 10:27am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118797061#Comment_118797061

There's absolutely no shame in fighting a war you don't believe in. It's more cowardly to fight for something because you are told to.

brokenangel · 17-03-2022 10:34am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118797150#Comment_118797150

So that's you out anyway. Next

sydthebeat · 17-03-2022 10:46am

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What do you mean you "don't believe in"

The whole premise of this thread is your country has been invaded

Are you saying you would refuse to believe the country had been invaded?

Or you don't believe your country being invaded is a legitimate reason to wage war on the invaders?

brokenangel · 17-03-2022 10:49am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118797208#Comment_118797208

Oh I am sure plenty of people would come out and suddenly don't believe in war if the premise of the thread ever happened.

sydthebeat · 17-03-2022 10:51am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118797224#Comment_118797224

Yeah, they are called "cowards"

Would you fight for Dublin like Ukrainians are for Kyiv?

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