The Weird, Wacky and Awesome World of the NFL - General Banter thread V3

Are the Broncos a QB away though? In that division and a stacked AFC, will this get them over the hump?

I am sceptical on that front. Also, does the Miller trade look short-sighted now with a QB on board?

Fant was on my fantasy team that got to the Super Bowl this year, so I will always have a soft spot for him 😃

I really don't know how the Packers have pulled that off when they're supposed to be in cap hell. The last few seasons has made me quite sceptical of how the cap is applied tbh.

The Broncos should be quite happy with that trade tbf. They certainly wouldn't be in my top 5 for Superbowl contenders for next season but Russ should see them vying for playoff spots for the foreseeable. Think the Seahawks got robbed but you never know how those picks will fare out.

the confidence of last season ? The colts had to beat the jags in week 18 to get into the playoffs and shat the bed badly and wentz was a big part of that. Why are you surprised at the move ? The owner of the team ranted about the season on a video, and the GM and HC when asked didn’t commit to wentz coming back and when frank reich was luck warm on wentz I knew he was done.

Let Carson wentz go to Washington. Unless he changes his mental outlook he’s never getting back to his early years in Philly where he played amazingly.

I mentioned his age for a reason, it's nothing to do with his winning record. I don't expect them to change coach because it was pretty clear over the last few months that either he left or Wilson did. Now that Wilson has, he's obviously staying.

But he is 70, no coach in NFL history has made it beyond 73 and he was an interim (Romeo Crennel). Obviously Carroll could go beyond that but if the Seahawks were looking towards the next golden era for the franchise, now would be a good time for a fresh face given the obvious on field rebuild they're about to undertake.

I think keeping a player is always less exciting that signing a player, it's just human nature

I don't think Jimmy would be a lateral move. He isn't that huge step up into the top tier QBs but Jimmy is a good QB who is much more proven than Wentz and unlike Wentz Jimmy's team mates absolutely adore and run through walls for him. For example, I don't see a world where Jimmy doesn't help the Colts win that last game of the season.

Jimmy isn't the exciting pick up and I'll understand the frustration of whatever fanbase he ends up with if he costs what this latest Wentz deal does (or likely more), I've been there myself over the years with him, but if your GM can't or won't pay the price to make one of the aggressive 'mortgage your future' type moves to get the few elite QBs that come available then I'd much rather be in the position the 49ers have been with a great supporting cast and good Jimmy than scrambling around hoping you get lucky and a great QB falls into your lap for cheap - especially when the Colts' division is very, very winnable right now and who knows what happens in the playoffs.

By bad situation do you mean his time in Philly ? If that’s what you mean then lets not pretend he’s not to blame for some of that bad situation. Yes, he had injuries but so do many players but they rebound. From when he tore his ACL it was a slow if steady slide to what we saw in the 2020 season which was a pity. He should’ve been benched weeks before he was because he just wasn’t playing at all well. I blame the coaching staff in Philly for not having the balls to not coddle him and protect his feelings and instead do what was best for the team.

One common thing that Jalen hurts and Nick foles have with their team mates is that they played for them. The same can’t be said for Carson wentz and it seems the same issues occurred in Indy.

if by owner you mean Jim Irsay, then yes on the whole I’d agree that’s he’s an idiot but I’ve no issue in this regard with his decision. You expect when you give up what you give up for a QB, that down the stretch he’s there and he performs and wentz wasn’t due to his own choice over the vaccine, which is his right but there were consequences to that choice. And then week 18 we saw what happened there.

No I don’t have a dislike for Wentz but you implying something that a poster didn’t say isn’t new from you. I was delighted that we drafted Carson Wentz but the fact remains he had issues by the end of his time in Philly that weren’t on anyone else but Wentz.

why would I just focus on one year ? If it was that good a year he’d still be there. He can have good seasons statically but unless he decides to stop holding onto the ball way too long, deliberately ignoring wide open receivers(which he did in Philly) and instead throw into double coverage and get picked off, and unless he rediscovers an internal okay clock it won’t matter what team he’s on, or the best OLine in the league, he won’t have the success his talent out of North Dakota suggested.

well when a players Personal decisions have an impact on the success of his team then he has a right to be pissed off.

Another big trade

I didn't like this at all when I first heard just because it didn't add up to great value but the charges are also eating the salary so it makes some sense. Also agree they should keep trading while they're at it, load up on picks, after many years now of frittering them away in trades and moves up the board, and clean up the cap after years of kicking the can on salaries down the road through restructures for a win now that never came. I can certainly take a couple of years of "development" instead of 7-9 wins in perpetuity.