Dairy Chitchat 4, an udder new thread.

Lot of factors coming together to drive them prices I suppose.

In some ways you'd be mad not to lease out your land for 400/ acre plus I presume your entitlements back, but on the flip side you'd have to think lads paying that are intending taking silage off it without spoiling it with ps and ks and lowering there overall stocking rate.

Unless your land becomes part of somebody else's milking block, You'd more than likely be getting your land back in far worse state.

If just one company want to test you just get the kit .if 2 or more your told which companies and you can accept which one you want to use on herd plus …waiting on 2 here

Tbh any stories of 400 acre must include the bps back in that figure. Other wise its untenable surely. If rent was 280 bps would be 120/ acre or 300/ ha, which is above average

At 400 an acre and bps on top, would be buying before paying that ffs

That doesn't factor in additional slurry storage or housing if you are going up in cow numbers and not already in place either.

That's required if bringing in feed or grazing cows on the new ground.

440 gone on a place close to me, clean no maps

they could really do with capping the tax free rent at 150/200 an acre to make it sustainable for farmers as opposed to land owners milking the system

Don't allow leasing to satisfy the active farming definition for seven years for CAT. Remove cheap wealth transfer from the land market.

GDT up 5%. Milk production dropping all over the world. thebullvine.com/news/global-milk-output-shrinks-and-deficits-get-bigger/#

the choice is always with the land owner

undercounter payment is this cash? that illegal so ill assume thats not what your referring to

additional rent over the 150/200 mark, this is taxable at lets say 46% could put a 80-100%tax rate on this..first 150/200 tax free balance taxed at 46-100%, no under the counter stuff at all

increase tax revenue for country, might dampen down the silly money being for rent plus takes the EU SFP out of being tax free as auctioneers are incorporating them into tax free leases for land owners

A tax on what the landowner wont effect what farmers will bid for the ground.

The ground has that value in the eye of the renter...what tax the landowner pays is irrelevant to that.

Lads let cows out to grass and now calves have scour. This happens every year when I let them out. Is there anything I can put into the milk to help prevent this happening?

There's a product called Prebiotic and Postbiotic for calves from Precision Microbes. That's seems to be getting good reviews. Sounds like it would be of use.

My own are getting a little something about a week of age. It's not a scour but they're turned off milk for a few feeds and when they get through it they're perfect again. I'm getting that product myself today to try on the latest calves that are going this now.

I'd have reservations about the milk replacer route. You could be entering and forced out in a short time from above. I'd try the microbes with the milk and this way you'll know now and maybe save a bit typing into the register as that's getting tighter too.

The product is only available through Vets.