Dairy Chitchat 4, an udder new thread.

My first collection came back over 400 …talked to few others all had crazy results too…likewise clear filter etc …wouldn’t worry yet

No blanket dry cow tubes and sealers.

The story in yesterday's farming independent about the farm partnership gone wrong was interesting to say the least, it wouldn't take a rocket scientist for anyone in the locality of where the farm is based to join the dots and know who the farmers are in question, how it was let go to print at all smacks of a editor not proof-reading articles before sending to press

Technically no, But if you don't, The dam will be recorded as PI, so you will be unable to sell her without a clear test. Easier to just test the calf

Source is directly from my vet.

I think what may happen is if there is no result you will just lose the bvd free status and the cost of rest of the samples may go up by the 50c or whatever it is.

We were sold a pup, told the testing was for X number of years but the truth is it can’t be fully eradicated so we’re stuck with it

I got a letter here the other day that my neighbour is keeping PI animals. A half arsed eradication scheme that will never work when this is allowed to continue.

Got it as well …wouldn’t take a present of them without seen what bulls are in it and there back breeding

Some inbreeding on the above hotshot bull, and it's eye-opening that it's Oman that's the problem, after the 100's if not 1000's of Irish breed bulls that have went through the system the past 20 odd years, Oman sons and granddaughters are still been used get the magic numbers from the wonky computer

The above bull is a extreme example, the bull dams mother is a Oman daughter, and pivotal on the sires side is a lwr son that's of abo a Oman son, their is a inbreeding tool on icbf when running bull teams as well

Does everyone here have there own flask even if using an ai tech to inseminate? I'd love to put more effort into the breeding but im dependent on what ai man has in the flask on the day alot of the time, I've got him to order bulls in the past but sure he does be under pressure, and last year was all fresh bulls which tended to be a selection of the top ebi bulls....i used mostly pivotal,stark, seville and Albert last year..

looking through the pg book there yday I'm not too impressed with the first few pages as mentioned I think 11 pivotal sons.

Have never used Irish bulls here to be honest, primarily semex our wws, on a program here using mainly immunity plus bulls, re cow families I don't put a lot of emphasis on it, I try to find bulls I really like use them heavily for 2 years then I pick another team I like that are total outcross sires to what I've been previously using....

It's getting to dangerous levels the reliance on certain sires both here and abroad, using bulls of different lines with good genomic proofs helps to guard against inbreeding