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Heavyweight Boxing



  • Registered Users Posts: 17,739 ✭✭✭✭ yourdeadwright

    Aj stepping aside or 15million is word on the street ,

    iv been saying for a while he was taking way to long to confirm his new coach or split form Rob, it'll 100% be used as his excuse for not taking the rematch in April ,

  • Registered Users Posts: 48,681 ✭✭✭✭ walshb

    But does this stepaside mean we get Fury-Usyk, because if it does, thank you, AJ!!!

  • Registered Users Posts: 17,739 ✭✭✭✭ yourdeadwright

  • Registered Users Posts: 48,681 ✭✭✭✭ walshb

    Lovely. I'd rather Usyk-Fury than Usyk-AJ II

    All we need now is that useless sh1te, Whyte to throw a spanner in the works!

  • Registered Users Posts: 6,099 ✭✭✭ ebbsy

    The gulf in class between AJ and Usyk, and between Whyte and Fury, means that Usyk-Fury is the best option in my view.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 48,681 ✭✭✭✭ walshb

    I still think an Usyk-AJ fight could be intriguing, and not at all a surprise on who wins...

    AJ surely can't be as lacklustre and timid and cautious next time around....makes for an interesting fight.

    I think Fury be clear enough vs. Whyte....

    I'd prefer Usyk-Fury even over Fury-AJ at this stage.

  • Registered Users Posts: 3,790 ✭✭✭ squinn2912

    Usyk Fury is thee fight of course! Nothing else is close to that at the moment.

    I’d say Whyte would give Fury a work out but not much more than that. Joshua could well beat Usyk with better tactics. He must be sore about how that went but he’s very slow to go and do anything about it. Fury may have had an idea about this move when he ‘offered’ to train Joshua for Usyk!

  • Registered Users Posts: 17,739 ✭✭✭✭ yourdeadwright

    Sounds like this will be all sorted by the end today ,

    At least the plan of the next fight ,

  • Registered Users Posts: 17,739 ✭✭✭✭ yourdeadwright

    Whatever has gone on here its a right mess

    Fury's teams saying in the 24th hour AJ & Whyte requested more money ,

    AJ saying he wasn't going to step aside,

    Hearn saying its Fury fault he wouldn't sign the deal

    Usyk team saying Fury wouldn't sign the deal ,

    I think the big loser in all this is AJ & Hearn i really think they hoped they could get the step aside cash get a new trainer and have time to build up for the rematch, Now they will have to take the fight in April & if AJ loses he is out of the equation for the foreseeable ,

    Its hard to know if Fury didn't pull this one on purpose, One he gets one over on AJ & Hearn & two he doesn't looked in shape ( less so than normal) & could probably do with fighting Whyte before the Usyk show down ,

    I'm still not convinced we see AJ v Usyk 2 in the near future,

  • Registered Users Posts: 6,099 ✭✭✭ ebbsy

    I think AJ vs Fury was never on the table in the first place.

    I also think none of this week was ever on the table either.

    AJ was the big loser here, now he has to fight Usyk again.

    And I don't think he has much chance of winning. I would like to see him win though, and then fight Fury.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 10,044 ✭✭✭✭ The Nal

    Kinda sick of AJ now. Hope he gets sparked by Usyk and packs it in.

  • Registered Users Posts: 17,739 ✭✭✭✭ yourdeadwright

    The last week Hearn seemed desperate to get the step aside cash, Even now going on about its Fury fault surely your happy AJ gets to fights for the belts ?

    I think Fury & his team could have played this out on purpose, AJ & Hearn obviously took there eyes of Usyk & now they have no way around him , Fury ego will love the fact it seems he had all the power here & upset the other two,

    Whyte has been very quite through out the whole thing ,

  • Registered Users Posts: 6,099 ✭✭✭ ebbsy

  • Registered Users Posts: 2,351 ✭✭✭ Littlehorny

    Read today that Fury vs Whyte has been confirmed. Venue and date to be announced.

  • Registered Users Posts: 48,681 ✭✭✭✭ walshb

    I’ll take it. At this stage I just want to see these lads fooking fighting!!!

  • Registered Users Posts: 390 ✭✭ Butson

    Whyte still hasn't signed contract!

    Hopefully doesn't fall through

  • Registered Users Posts: 3,790 ✭✭✭ squinn2912

    Aye aren’t they asking him to accept 80-20? 20% of that cake would be a quare handshake. He’s likely to lose and lose royally which would limit his value for the next fight or two so looking to get well seen to this time round

  • Registered Users Posts: 48,681 ✭✭✭✭ walshb

    Well, if he really is all about wanting his shot and doing it for legacy n all that, then he should take his circa 8 million pounds and fooking fight

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  • Registered Users Posts: 17,739 ✭✭✭✭ yourdeadwright

    His last fight ge made 600k hes getting 8 million for this and an extra 4 million if he wins

  • Registered Users Posts: 9,147 ✭✭✭ normanoffside

    If Whyte doesn't sign then I never want to hear from him again.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 17,739 ✭✭✭✭ yourdeadwright

    He could be have the hump and just be refusing to make Fury & the promotion any more moeny & has decided not to do any media or hype for the fight,

    There is no way in hell he turns the fight down

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,105 ✭✭✭ eeepaulo

    Interesting times, because the wbc ordered 80/20, queensbury were able to go in high, so they are guaranteeing dillian a bit less than 8 million, there is no way fury is getting 30 odd million. Afternoon fight between 2 brits in america?

    Frank & tyson agreed a deal before hand for a lesser amount and a split for the ppv + gate so they can go in high and have control of the promotion. (well that's my guess)

    Now dillian is sat there silently, saying (without words) would you like me to help sell this fight? He has no reason to sign before the 21 feb.

  • Registered Users Posts: 17,739 ✭✭✭✭ yourdeadwright

    The fight will be in the UK

    Whyte is very odd he never made close to this before lost to an oldan to fights ago and somehow still upset he isn't getting 10 million

    Does he not realize Fury is now a massive draw in the states so he himself should put in some effort into the build up and of he wins he can gain himself a decent following,

    Seems to have very little foresight

  • Registered Users Posts: 48,681 ✭✭✭✭ walshb

    An absolute knob....nobody knows the chap at all....In most other eras he'd be a journeyman, and here he is making a huge amount more than he has ever made before, and he's stalling it seems.....Should be happy with 10 percent, never mind 20

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,105 ✭✭✭ eeepaulo

    Sorry, I meant in order to be big it needs to be a hit in America as well, afternoon ppv over there. It will probably be in Cardiff stadium, interesting that before this fight was made fury was either going to fight in Manchester arena or an arena in US, so he couldn't fill Cardiff on his own.

    Whyte co promotes all his fights so the purse from previous fights isn't the whole story. It was widely reported a total figure of about 5 million for the first fight against povetkin and 50/50 in the second with Whyte guaranteed 4 million. During lockdown so the first fight had no gate btw, the second 100 fans.

    Why would he not look for the maximum he can get?

    Eddie hearn has said the bid he put in was going to lose money, promotors know these figures, they can roughly calculate these things, maybe not exactly but that's the job they do, but hearn would of had to pay fury the full 80% of the bid.

    Whyte has a negotiating position for more just by saying nothing and doing the minimum. I'm fairly sure fury isn't getting the reported 80%, he will have a lesser amount and percentage of the gate and ppv. Whyte might be looking for a % too.

  • Registered Users Posts: 48,681 ✭✭✭✭ walshb

    Whyte still to sign according to Warren. Hearn saying they haven’t received contracts, and that Warren hasn’t paid a 4 million pounds deposit.

    Whyte to get circa 10 million dollars (7 in pounds) for the fight. Fury about about 30 million dollars (23 in pounds).

    a 6 million dollars (4 in pounds) bonus if Whyte wins..

  • Registered Users Posts: 17,739 ✭✭✭✭ yourdeadwright

    As of yesterday the deposit has been made and Fury has signed up,

    Whyte is getting 8 mill 12 if he wins

    Fury said undisputed fell through because AJ wanted 5 million nore (20) Whyte wante dmore and Uysk said he wouldn't be ready till May,

    Fury said he decided it was all to much and reckons AJ is scared atiff of Uysk and that fight wont happen,

  • Registered Users Posts: 9,147 ✭✭✭ normanoffside

    Apparently Whyte still hasn't signed his part of the contract to fight Fury and the deadline to sign is today.

  • Registered Users Posts: 17,739 ✭✭✭✭ yourdeadwright

    I heard its 6 am tomorrow morning but could be wrong ,

    Whyte holding out for more money, wants money to do the press conferences and so on ,

    How much of a mug will he look if he keeps up the silence and just gets stopped in 5 rounds,

    Also he should fire his management team or advisors,

    Fighting Fury is a way to get your name out there and generate more cash for future pay days, Get yourself know to general public and in the states, Whyte making some really stupid choices ,

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  • Registered Users Posts: 879 ✭✭✭ Lion Killer

    Fury should move on. Leave Dil the druggy in the dust