Dairy Chitchat 4, an udder new thread.

Exactly straight....

Hopefully Mcgonologue's "working group" won't upscuttle that possibility.

We have a habit of not being able to appreciate long term needs.

the latest pg catalogue is out, just 15 bulls by pivotal and 9 by albert. Line breeding and inbreeding will be rampant in years to come if the icbf don't pull the finger out and diversify there bull selections/recommendations.

@whelan2

You're my usual source of info, how much are the stamps for posting bvd samples

TIA

They seem to be pushing seville on the new test bulls, they'll work okay on pivotal as a outcross, but for Albert daughters you have coolsan art on both sides, they don't give a flying f**k to be honest will just keep doing the yearly lotto/ebi genomics on their wonky computer and make sure to buy plenty of high ebi ai bulls of teagasc research farms, and a selected few cheerleader farmers and our esteemed advisory body will do some new research how in-breeding when using high ebi bulls is actually beneficial with the disclaimer to use a team of 15 bulls per 100 cows on farm , not to actually spread the risks but to make sure a loyal customer doesn't end up with to many heifers of the one bull that resemble badly breed goats and a lightbulb moment occurs in his head that he's been had all these years

There a great company and have dealt with them for years ….but I thought same ….choice of bulls and the reliance on Albert and pivotal sons is a big negative

If you bring that up at one of their sales/PR meetings you will be met with a dismissive answer, making you out to be a fool. ICBF were brilliant at that tactic. Shure what would the farmers know.

Took long enough to cop on in fairness, having the ability to see you've f**ked up and draw a line under it and move on instead of persisting at it, when you know your only digging yourself into a bigger hole is crucial....

I didn't take my ole chaps advice here re not going the fleck route and bought a expensive imported bull , he had past expirences with rotbunts and knew they'd probably be a disaster, was proven 100% correct and I easily cost myself 40k by not listening to him, the resulting heifers where that bad, I sold the 2nd crop of 25 maidens for beef rather then milk them

Unfortunate Situation

Just looking for advice and options

Got call from department this morning

An Empty cow i sold at the mart last October ,

was killed at factory yesterday and had suspected lesions for TB

So as of now im locked up and cant sell any stock for 8 weeks until culture result comes back which hopefully be ok

Terrible timimg with cows Calving and not being able to sell calves at 3 weeks of age as usual,i will be under pressure regards labour and facilities to cater for all calves during this period.

Looking for anybody who has been in the situation for advice

My limited knowledge is that

I could tb test the whole herd which is something i dont really want to do with cows on brink of calving.

Think i can sell to feedlots but will get very poor price.

I only used sexed semen and beef straws so keep the fr females and sell the angus, speckle park calves,

As i said above any knowledge or advice would be greatly appreciated.

TIA