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JRant · 29-01-2022 08:20PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118551462#Comment_118551462

Not at all but what rules is he playing the game under?

He's rightly called a few dublin players for fouls and pulling arms. Yet he has a completely different interpretation the other way. I counted at least three occasions were our players were "held up in the tackle", that's grand for rugby but is 100% a free in this code.

There's also the yellow for the swinging arm to Smalls head in the first minutes. I've seen lads get the line for tackles like that.

Jizique · 29-01-2022 08:22PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118551500#Comment_118551500

Held up in the tackle or surrounded and holding onto the ball? Caught in possession? As Colm said, Dublin are taking the ball into the tackle

JRant · 29-01-2022 08:22PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118551482#Comment_118551482

Not sure if speed is the issue but it is very deliberate. One a good few occassions we've had the opportunity to get quick ball in yet the players have stopped and passed back. It's 100% a tactic and it's killing us.

Strumms · 29-01-2022 08:23PM

Precisely, but that doesn’t suit the narrative.. swinging arm was a card at the very least, red territory but no sanction…?

JRant · 29-01-2022 08:24PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118551506#Comment_118551506

Yeah but you can't wrap your arms around the player with the ball like Armagh are doing. That's a free all day every day.

JRant · 29-01-2022 08:28PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118551512#Comment_118551512

If Small was the aggressor I think it would have been a different outcome.

breezy1985 · 29-01-2022 08:28PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118551506#Comment_118551506

You get a lot of this in hurling and football. Technically it's a free against the player with the ball for charging but never gets called and often if a free is given its in the ball carriers favour

JRant · 29-01-2022 08:33PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118551542#Comment_118551542

It's only charging if you run straight at the defender. You have zero obligation to try run around their outstretched arms as well. If they grab or impede you with their arms it's a free.

Xander10 · 29-01-2022 08:35PM

only switched on. Is this a team in terminal decline. Not sure Dessie is the man.

JRant · 29-01-2022 08:37PM

That's an outrageous free to give. Talk about a gimme.

JRant · 29-01-2022 08:38PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118551562#Comment_118551562

Still the bones of a very good team here. Dessie's tactics are pure puke though.

breezy1985 · 29-01-2022 08:44PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118551553#Comment_118551553

To me it looks like they are playing for the free and I don't mean just Dublin

Xander10 · 29-01-2022 08:46PM

looks like Dublin from the bad old days with zero composure.

Now, prove me wrong!

Grandeeod · 29-01-2022 08:47PM

Looks like a hammering. Glad I have some cans to ease the pain.😁

JRant · 29-01-2022 08:48PM

Why is Howard still playing in the half backs? That's another black mark for Dessie and his team.

JRant · 29-01-2022 08:49PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118551594#Comment_118551594

It's a bit of a balancing act alright and hard for refs to get right.

MFPM · 29-01-2022 08:57PM

13 wides to 2...sums up Dublin up front. There's so much wrong with Dublin's game plan..

JRant · 29-01-2022 09:08PM

Dessie needs to go, it's that simple. He has us playing an awful brand of turgid shītė. Lads look they they don't know where they should be playing or don't look comfortable with how they are being asked to play. This is the exact same issues we seen last year and it looks like nothing was done. Getting beaten out the gate by a team playing 2 men in the forward line is an embarrassment.

koutoubia · 29-01-2022 09:08PM

Fair play to Armagh. They wanted it,

But thats the worst Dublin performance since The startled earwigs era.

Looks like Dessie isnt up to the job as the team dont seem to have bought into whatever plan is in place.

JustJoe7240 · 29-01-2022 09:13PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118551522#Comment_118551522

Only an All Ireland winning manager.

Someone trolling the dubs in Croker, Playing Glory days by Bruce on the P.A

Xander10 · 29-01-2022 09:22PM

there's a clear disconnect between Dessie and the players. Needs sorting asap.

JRant · 29-01-2022 09:24PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118551734#Comment_118551734

Ah Maurice is grand being honest. Far from the worst you'll get on RTE.

rolling boh · 29-01-2022 09:32PM

Slightly better second half but overall very poor never a fan of Dessie seems no lessons learnt from last year. Looks like a major rebuild and he is not the man for it imo .

Strumms · 29-01-2022 09:33PM

Dessie is far too one dimensional...never seems like a plan B anytime we get in trouble….takes more then subs, needs ideas and another tactical injection….

we averaged one score about every 5 minutes… 14 scores in 70 plus minutes of football….on what was a good night for football…

dublin backs were nowhere near aggressive in the tackle, and closing down, not enough urgency, intensity or putting themselves on the line in that second half… too much running after Armagh players after Armagh went through them…

We allowed them play, too much possession, freedom, not enough intensity, bravery, stepping up…. Quite concerning..

still, that fûcking useless ref too. Incompetent.

Jizique · 29-01-2022 09:38PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118551734#Comment_118551734

Could have been Dessie Dolan so be grateful for that

Strumms · 29-01-2022 09:47PM

Something that impressed me about Armagh.. they always had two or three players busting their böllocks to make a run to give the man with the ball options and to pick a pass….occupying and moving Dublin defenders too… Too often the likes of Fenton looked up and all he saw was marked players…. No options, get away from your markers, just static city.

29-01-2022 09:55PM

We’ve really regressed with the keep ball situation the last 2-3 years. It was a decent tactic when we’d MDMA and his basketball background in the middle and genuine pace with Jack & Mannion, and forwards who could kick long distance points.

We now have none of them 3 things. It looks so easy to defend against. Teams retreat and defend en masse on the 45. What was one of our biggest weapons is now our biggest weakness as teams invite us forward, and break with pace and counter into the space.

To be fair to Dessie, I don’t think any side could handle the amount of retirements and opt outs we’ve had. Now might be the time to back some youth, there’s a lot of mid 20 lads in and around the panel that just don’t look good enough and unlikely they’ll all be late bloomers.

ArielAtom · 29-01-2022 10:05PM

Armagh full value for their victory, but if you are talking about the tackle on Basquel there were three tacklers, one who had his arms wrapped in true choke tackle tactic. If you can’t see that so be it.

ArielAtom · 29-01-2022 10:07PM

The problem is when we were as aggressive we were punished with a free awarded against. Armagh must be up there as an AI fav after dishing that out to us.

JRant · 29-01-2022 10:07PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118551897#Comment_118551897

We saw flashes of it during the second half. Quick long ball into the forward line that stretched Armagh and they just gave away handy frees to stop us getting near the goal.

Defence was more of what we've seen over the past year or two. Putting one too many bodies into the attack and leaving one on one matches with little pressure on the ball coming in. The half back line is a big problem.

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