A Federal EU superstate

The ultimate aim of the EU is to make Europe like the United States.

They have never hidden that.

There's been scaremongering about this for fifty, sixty years. Nowhere in the article is a Federal EU mentioned.

This is more scaremongering.

Don't see the issue tbh. All baby steps that take us away from insular nationalism towards a united globe in a number of centuries are to be welcomed.

The value of EU membership has never been clearer than in the last decade. We'd be an economic mess, frozen out of international markets, at the mercy of the economic whims of the lunatic asylum across the Irish Sea.

I have absolutely no problem with an EU federation that derogates supranational concerns like defence and external trade to elected federal bodies.

Since Ireland joined in 1973 the EU has gone a very, very long way towards becoming a federal state.

People in Ireland hate Brexit and the idea people voting for Brexit aren't all stupid, but the moves towards federalism was one of the major reasons people voted to leave. It was just something many of them considered and didn't want, as they wanted to be closer to decision making. The fact Britain couldn't control levels of immigration from EU states was a huge issue in the debate.

I don't really like the moves towards federalism, but I don't think we'll have any real say. And it's inconceiveable we'll leave at any point in the next 30 years.

Undoubtedly the EU has been good for Ireland, but I doubt any closer integration will bring us any benefits.

I think Texas still has an opt out clause but yeah I see your point. We are not being coerced into anything, the door is always open.

I see 2 people thanked the stale German=Nazi slur so I suppose it must be an old one but a good one!

Anyway those most likely to bring such troubles back to Western Europe are the anti-EU nationalists in the different member states either trying to hobble the EU or break it up. They won and got Brexit done in the UK and it has been a wonderful boon for good relations and mutual understanding between France and UK and Ireland and UK. If there are more "exits" it'll be more of the same bad humour with more players (or more likely just pawns being played by external powers like US/China/Russia/Giant MNCs/India or who knows who else from Asia or Africa in future etc).

As much as people want to retain sovereignty, we have to face the geopolitical reality which is the US is in a rapid economic, environmental and social decline and will or has already ceased to be a global superpower and thus we are moving into a world with China as the sole superpower and Russia as a lesser power.

A federal EU state with a EU army would restore the balance of power so our ancestors wont be speaking chinese in 100 years time.

You have to look at the bigger picture.

Lol, here’s the bigger picture: our descendants will be speaking Chinese any way you cut it, my teenage daughter is already ahead of the curve and is taking lessons in mandarin!! :D

Not global domination no, but setting the global agenda on all fronts, from non negotiable positions. A world in which an authoritarian human rights intolerant China is the sole superpower is not where we want to go.