The Jimbo Slice memorial thread, feat Nate Dogg - The new Off Topic thread

Well it's a harder progression. I'd imagine that if you can do this, you've probably maxed out the weight on the leg extension machine. Much like how a nordic curl offers more resistance than most leg curl machines.

If you're about to fail the rep, maybe you can just bend your hips and squat back up? I do see an argument for just doing the version in the other video where, it might be easier to bail on a failed rep. I've never tried the version in the injury video if I'm being honest.

Ultimately any exercise can be dangerous if it's loaded beyond your ability. The issue with an exercise like the bodyweight leg extension is that it starts with a heavy eccentric lower, with your knee at a big mechanical disadvantage. This makes it potentially a good tool for someone with strong quads trying to make them even stronger. But I wouldn't recommend it to a beginner, just like I wouldn't have a beginner try 100kg on their first bench session.

Yeah fair points about the leverage if you fail, but I just think the injury risk is minimal if you're someone who is strong enough to treat this as a high rep accessory, staying away from failure. Like if you read his progression, I think it's not all that surprising how this happened:

"So I decide to challenge myself a little more on these sissy squats. first I did few regular, too easy. Then I decide to lean backwards, still too easy. Then I start to add some weights on my chest, 10reps with 5kg, 8reps with 10kg, 5reps with 15kg, and 3 singles with 20kg, on my fourth repetisjon my left knee gave up."

He said it was a dislocated knee and a partial ACL tear. You can see the guy's profile here: https://www.instagram.com/konrad.koziol/

They must? Why must they?

Steroids might be a factor, sure. They might not. I don't know and neither does anyone else here.

That's all I'm saying.

There's definitely a double standard in how deaths in strength sports are treated vs other ones. Significant number of footballers have died from cardiac events over the years. Steroid abuse probably does play a significant role for bodybuilding deaths, but there are also probably some that are just tragedies of young men dying before their time. Heart disease is the number one killer in western world, regardless if you're an athlete or not.

https://voi.id/en/sports/58761/list-of-footballers-who-collapsed-due-to-heart-disease-christian-eriksen-fabrice-muamba-to-eri-irianto

I saw something that in an American study , Baseball had the best longevity and professional wrestling had the worst , worse then being a typical couch surfing American. The additional variables include recreational drugs, extreme eating and dieting, carrying sheer excess bulk over decades cant be good. Natty competition bodybuilding would most likely eat into longevity gains

Powerlifting at the highest level is worse Im sure, you cant be healthy above ~130KG, I remember a quip from somewhere that if you wanted to make bodybuilding "safe" you would have a weight limit of ~90KG and body fat would need to be pegged at 10% or above but it would kill the business model in the same way reducing F1 to motorway speeds would kill racing.

To be fair, we don't really have the research to assert that just being heavy in and of itself is detrimental. Research showing weight as an issue is almost always on people who are obese and non-exercisers. From a theoretical point of view, makes sense that heart would be under more stress even if the added weight is from muscle. But we also know that being overweight and fit can be healthier than lean with poor cardiovascular fitness ('fat but fit' phenomenon).

I think best recommendation for health is to get strong but keep bodyfat at healthy levels and engage in cardiovacular exercise. And avoid 'special supplements'.

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