Gardai & Cycling

I will correct you and remind you that it is in fact John Rambo who has the flawed thinking of skill barriers I requested he provide me with evidence to support such a claim because as I made very clear I think it’s a ridiculous notion born of bias and little else.

please in future make a better effort to ensure you’re accusing the correct person of flawed though as I assure you my train of thought is based on nothing but logical reasoning.

Very interesting, amazing insights and anecdotes etc.. but not only are cyclists safer, but cyclists make better drivers. More actual facts below

I'm not a commuter cyclist any more and I've three vehicles in the driveway, daily driver, Campervan and something nice for the weekend. beep beep!

Feel free to back up your stories and insights with some facts too!

If you think Transdev have some kind of pro-cycling anti-car agenda, you would be wrong. They've been caught out showing considerable anti-cycling bias, showing a majority of cycling incidents in their selected videos released to the press while cyclists make up a minority of the crashes they encounter.

You'll have to work harder to find excuses to ignore ALL the quantitative evidence staring you in the face.

Have to say it’s almost embarrassing to watch grown ass adults carry on like a bunch of kids over a preference in transport method.

i wonder if bus vs train users argue about who’s better and safer like car & bike owners do. 😂

reeks of superiority complex. What a piss take haha.

Was it not your good self who spent considerable time and effort in this diatribe, and now you're sneering at people who engage in discussion?

I’m not sneering at anyone for having a discussion, rather I’m embarrassed at the clear nonsense being spewed left and right in defence of who has the better mode of transport & is the better road user.

I’ve been around long enough to have seen this time and again & I just can never wrap my head around this idea that people can’t seem to carry on about their day using whatever transport is available to them without the need to feel better than someone else by means of using a car or bike respectively.

I do want to make sure it’s apparent though I have absolutely nothing against a cyclist or car user based on their preferences, however I find it almost pitiful that a thread discussing whether or not Gardai are letting people off the hook for the indefensible has devolved into pulling statistics from thin air, accusing people of saying things they certainly never did & just trying to feel superior to someone.

a lot of what I’ve seen here is a bunch of what I presume to be cyclists, ripping shreds off anyone who dares to either appear indifferent to cars vs cyclists or favours the former.

you are free to insult my post if you like, I’m stuck in hospital at the minute and I’ve Jack else to do, so I guess I did indulge a bit. Boredom huh?

regardless I will apologise for any offence I may have caused, I could probably have put it a little better, but I don’t think I’ll ever understand why it is so difficult for folks to just get up in the morning and use whatever vehicle they are inclined without the need for bashing and insulting everyone who does the opposite.

i see an awful lot of either “all car owners are bollockeses” or “cyclists are bollockeses” like Christ on a bicycle it’s not that deep!

I’m absolutely under no circumstances trying to stifle discussion either, it’s neither my interest nor indeed my right to do so. I was simply observed a great deal of quite asinine “no you!” behaviour that sees bias take over from what’s factual and I just find that sad. As I said I think if one or more persons is going to debate a given topic we should do with a factual eye rather than a bias.

But anyway, I’m kinda done here I think. I’ll once again extend my apologies to anyone who I may have offended.

Oh trust me I’ve seen plenty of absolute farce being presented as matter of fact & maybe I might get just bored enough to point it all out (maybe not though I don’t think that’s a good way to make friends of anyone 😂)

To be fair I’m actually guilty of that right now also as you are correct to pull me up on the stats comment - I meant to say stats that are in some manner flawed for one reason or another and without more insight I would hesitate to find them a concrete source.

specifically regarding the amount of red lights ran, how did these figures come to exist & if it’s as I presume just counting any garda intervention in those cases, that may lead to slightly flawed stats if Gardai are infact not pursuing as vehemently cyclists who run lights vs other vehicles.

Then as I mentioned about the luas thing to me that doesn’t scream a definite “yes cars are more stupid” because as I said it’s one thing to chance driving out in front of a luas in a car where the risk of injury or death is significantly reduced vs a bike where let’s be honest you’ll more than likely die. That I would chalk up to human preservation kicking in.

i guess I look at it like saying 99.99% of cyclists don’t cycle off cliffs like.. yeah.. I bet! 😂 I hope that I was clearer there, my bad again!

And thank u I hope so also - thanks it is appreciated :)

Some people are multimodal. In that they use more than one form of transport in a week. The might use the car, bike, rental, light rail, mainline rail etc. in a given week depending on what they are doing.

Those that mostly only use one form of transport are pretty obvious. They tend to be less open to any alterative form of transport.

In my experience Gard's see cyclists as a nuisance, rather than a road users; which I believe it's a widespread view in Ireland in general.

Until roads are designed to be used/shared my by drivers and cyclists safely, there will always be this cars v cyclists mentality and will always be a certain type of cyclist who will (justifiably??) Ignore certain rules which were put in place without an acknowledgement of their existence.

Also, there are degrees of red light breaking.

Breaking a red to go straight or left when you guys the kerb and there are no pedestrians crossing makes sense. Breaking a red to go straight across a bust crossroads is serious and/or dangerous.

You're literally describing yourself.

For example buses break them constantly.

Thousands of fines issued to cyclists is not zero focus.

Low enforcement of motorists considering the rampant rule breaking. Certainly not under a microscope in any way.