What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

salmocab · 10-10-2021 05:43PM

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He certainly made some good decisions early on, saying 100% is a push, he didn’t ban flights from China he banned certain travellers with a lot of loopholes.

operation warp speed was a good initiative although when Pfizer got across the line first the attempts to call it the Trump vaccine were beyond moronic, we even had posters here claiming he deserved some of that credit.

however he quickly lost interest in it and then just wanted it to be about him and seemed to be jealous of the attention experts were getting.

pleasant Co. · 10-10-2021 05:59PM

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Thanks, I've read your posts and you are in no position to determine what is "based in reality", but I respect your point of view.

10-10-2021 06:03PM

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That's a lot of misinformation in just one post. Each sentence alone has several examples of misinformation, so I'll just tackle one at a time. If you respond to this message then I'll move on to the next statement in the above and so on.

Trump banned flights from China early on and the Dems were against it.

First, let's tackle this bit.

Trump banned flights from China

Trump didn't ban any flights from China, he imposed travel restrictions. Non-US citizens who had travelled within China within the last two weeks were prohibited from entering America. There was no restrictions on Americans going back and forth. And many also found ways of overcoming these restrictions.

early on

Italy banned all flights from to and from China before America did. (And note that they banned all flights, not just made weak restrictions.) They imposed that ban the same day the first confirmed cases in Italy were discovered. America, on the other hand, did not impose their "restrictions" until about 2 weeks after the first US cases.

and the Dems were against it

As a whole, no. One of Trump's primary reasons for thinking that was a fake Tweet from Chuck Schumer stating as such. Trump even mentioned this fake tweet in one of his own Tweets (now since redacted of course). Sure, there was some low level Democrats who criticised it but he was not “loudly criticized and protested” by Democrats as he claimed. Specifically, no Democratic leaders in Congress nor any Democratic presidential candidates criticised the introduction of such restrictions.

Josephfromdowntheroad · 10-10-2021 06:44PM

It's going to be interesting to see who becomes republican nominee for 2024, if Ron densantis runs I think he gets it to be honest.

Wall Street is backing Desantis already, taken from a Bloomberg article last month:

A fifth of the $55 million that DeSantis has raised this year came from hedge fund billionaires, private equity bankers, investment managers, and other finance industry donors. Trump, who got less than 2% of his 2020 reelection funds from Wall Street, has raised the bulk of his $100 million war chest from small-dollar donors.

Wallstreet are speaking with their cash.

Republican support for former President Donald Trump has quickly declined, leaving him in a virtual tie with Florida Governor Ron Desantis, according to a new poll of 2024 GOP presidential candidates.

The Poll was released Wednesday and conducted by GOP pollster Carter Wrenn on behalf of the super PAC of Trump's former national security adviser John Bolton. It found that while Trump still had the support of 26.2 percent of Republican voters, DeSantis was close behind at 25.2 percent. Support for Trump plummeted since a survey in July when he was the top choice for 46 percent of republicans Meanwhile, support for DeSantis nearly doubled from 13 percent in July.

Pussyhands · 10-10-2021 06:46PM

New boards is a balls to quote.

Trumps travel bans were called unamerican, dangerous to security and the rule of law - so is it a good or bad thing he didn't "ban" china flights? I shouldn't have said flights. I should have said travel.

Italy's travel ban was very effective wasn't it then!!!

Pelosi literally said Trumps travel ban wasn't effective. Bit weird to support something that has no effect then?

ohnonotgmail · 10-10-2021 06:50PM

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he didn't ban china flights. he banned certain people that had been in china recently.

10-10-2021 06:52PM

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Yeah..it's funny tbh at this stage..

10-10-2021 06:53PM

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Are you simultaneously praising the US travel restrictions while condemning the Italian flight ban?

everlast75 · 10-10-2021 07:05PM

The amount of people who post nonsense, get challenged with facts and then disappear for a few days only to reappear with similar nonsense is tiring.

Just to confirm for those that do this, you're not convincing anyone to change their mind. You're simply wasting your own time.

Igotadose · 10-10-2021 07:18PM

ETTD: Allen West supposedly with Covid. This after he announced his candidacy for TX gov, no doubt a speech to supporters, sans mask gan doubt. https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-ally-allen-west-is-running-against-greg-abbott-for-governor-of-texas

Faugheen · 10-10-2021 07:29PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118001477#Comment_118001477

Bahahahahahaha.

Why do the Prumpsters have to always clarify what he meant, then?

astrofool · 10-10-2021 07:52PM

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You were unable to counter any of aristotle's points. It honestly looks like you've conceded your entire statement as false.

Cody montana · 10-10-2021 09:15PM

NEW: Trump came “incredibly close” to appointing Ivanka as the president of the World Bank. Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin had to block it from happening.

Totally normal.

Cody montana · 10-10-2021 09:17PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118002129#Comment_118002129

Maybe he’s got a meme?

everlast75 · 10-10-2021 09:20PM

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Brains to burn clearly from this pic...

Josephfromdowntheroad · 10-10-2021 11:36PM

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A fair looking woman everlast.

FintanMcluskey · 10-10-2021 11:52PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118001927#Comment_118001927

Just to confirm for those that do this, you're not convincing anyone to change their mind. You're simply wasting your own time.

I doubt anyone in history has ever changed their political viewpoint because of something someone said on an anonymous online discussion forum

everlast75 · 11-10-2021 01:24AM

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Her dad really thinks so

11-10-2021 01:26AM

At least she didn't start banging her widowed in-laws..

everlast75 · 11-10-2021 02:08AM

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????????

11-10-2021 06:56AM

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Really going there? Given the stuff we know that Trump did while his wife was pregnant?

Cody montana · 11-10-2021 07:27AM

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What government position does Hunter hold?

Leroy42 · 11-10-2021 08:36AM

I think this January 6th issue is really going to come back to bite Trump. I fully expect that nothing will actually happen to him, he does seem to have an amazing ability to avoid any sort of responsibility on anything, but the revelations the last few weeks has moved the story on from the line that was being trotted out that the insurrection was simply a few overly enthusiastic Trump supporters that simply happened to be in DC at the same time and got a bit carried away, to one where Trump was working very hard behind the scenes to carry out a very planned coup.

He clearly encouraged his supporters to be in DC and attack the capital as an additional lever of pressure on the likes of Pence and some wavering GOP delegates. It went too far, but I suspect he never anticipated that the coup plan wouldn't work or that the security would be so lacking as so enable the insurrectionists to actually nearly succeed.

He is back to blocking subpoenas and my bet is that the Dems will be quite happy for this to drag on while Trump tries to avoid it and have it come out once Trump announces he is actually running, as at that stage the GOP as stuck with him

Loafing Oaf · 11-10-2021 09:14AM

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I reckon the 'nuke China' plan, if there's anything to do it, will have a greater impact on the next election if Trump runs. It will be child's play for Dems to scare the crap out of America with a few artfully placed mushroom cloud images and hey presto Trump is going down like Goldwater.

ohnonotgmail · 11-10-2021 09:16AM

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Jan 6th is the very least of Trumps legal problems.

Penn · 11-10-2021 09:33AM

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I think they'd much prefer to be able to nail Trump with whatever they can before the mid-terms or before he can officially announce he's running agian, otherwise any charges brought against him will be accused of being partisan to knock him out of the race. Or any investigations might be completely canned if the GOP take over the House or Senate in the mid-terms.

They need to bring whatever they have against him while they still can, and to be honest I don't have a lot of faith in them to be able to do so, whether by being stonewalled in legal back-and-forth such as enforcing subpeonas, or just by dropping the ball as they often do while shrugging their shoulders and saying "At least we have the moral high ground"

everlast75 · 11-10-2021 09:43AM

The problem is that his intent is key in most crimes he committed.

As he is a ****ing lunatic, proving he had the mental intent to commit various crimes will be very difficult. (as an aside, isn't in curious how white collar crime is much harder to prove than working man type crime?).

That's why Trump, Stone, Gulliani and their freakshow ensemble are getting away with far too much.

ohnonotgmail · 11-10-2021 09:54AM

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In one of his tax cases there was a third set of books called Trump General Ledger. Proving intent in his tax cases will not be an issue. Forget about Jan 6th. There will be no criminal repercussions from that for Trump.

everlast75 · 11-10-2021 10:09AM

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Hi Georgia issues are real from what I read..

ohnonotgmail · 11-10-2021 10:17AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118003686#Comment_118003686

what particular issues are they?

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