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What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 369 ✭✭Luis21


    He will be the next president. The USA is still a joke.


    Mark my words



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,235 ✭✭✭Sparko




  • Posts: 2,264 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Make America Great Again, Redux.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,291 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    What's even better is that Forbes explain that had he done what he should have done and actually divested himself of his portfolio when he became President , he would be worth substantially more today than he was in 2016. In this case at least , the grift failed miserably.

    His obsession with "possessions" and owning physical properties over his entire life has cost him billions and billions.

    As has often been said had he simply liquidated his fathers company when he took control and put the money into an Index fund or the like , he'd be worth orders of magnitude more today than he has ever been.

    In real-terms he has quite a bit less money today than he was left by his father ,who despite being a thoroughly awful person was actually a shrewd business man unlike Donald , who just inherited his fathers personality and none of his business acumen.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,021 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 36,745 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Apparently the Twitter CFO has said that Trump's ban is permanent and won't be lifted even if he runs for office again.

    So the legal route is now Trump's only way to get back on Twitter. Going by his legal team's successes in the election fraud lawsuits, I imagine it's only a matter of time before they're in court admitting that they have no legal basis for claiming Trump should be allowed back on Twitter.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    It all might get caught up in a tangle with the freedom of speach stuff and they will try to use the freedom of speech thing that was used against Trump, but flip it around to claim that Twitter has to let him back on.


    That was used to prevent Trump from blocking people from seeing his Twitter feed. As the president he had chosen Twitter as how he would communicate with the citizens, so he wasn't allowed to block citizens from seeing his Twitter.

    But there isn't any obligation on Twitter to provide him with a platform, just that if they do it has to be accessible to everyone to see.


    If Trump, as president, decided to communicate with the citizens by smoke signals then he would need to make sure those smoke signals were accessible to all. But there wouldn't be any obligation on the charcoal suppliers to give him access to their charcoal to burn, it would be Trumps problem to sort out the access to the method of communication.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,291 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Despite what all the right-wing mouth-pieces say - "Freedom of Speech" and the First Amendment are utterly irrelevant in these cases.

    Twitter et al are private companies and as such not in anyway subject to the 1st Amendment , which applies only to the government.

    Trumps only potential angle here is to argue that their application of the rules that led to his ban were inconsistent.

    If he can show that other people similarly broke the rules but were not banned then he might have a case.

    But that won't happen , because that would require Trump to admit that what he did was in breech of the rules or was wrong in some way. It would also require a level of due diligence and research etc. that has thus far been utterly absent from any of his countless court cases throughout his life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,166 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    I dont think in the case of Trump blocking people on twitter that it was a freedom of speech argument.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,907 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Was it a legitimate argument with merit? No.

    Was Trump and his proxies using it anyway? Yes.

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    No it wasn't, but that is what they will claim it was. Easier to understand three word slogans than try to explain that the president can't block citizens from the messages that they are giving out, just because they call him mean names.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,291 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Has Trump ever actually "won" a case he's taken in court?

    I know that he has successfully delayed and deflected so that people give up or time runs out of challenges etc.

    But has he ever actually gone to court and had a Judge say "I find in favour of Donald J Trump" ??



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,166 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    they can claim all they like publicly. it won't help him in court.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,426 ✭✭✭Yeah_Right


    Yes. He successfully sued the NFL in the 80s over running a monopoly or something. He was awarded damages of 1 dollar 🤣



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,166 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    The best part is that Trump himself is the reason he was only awarded $1. He appeared as a witness. As the NFL counsel Rothman recalls:

    Beginning with the trial’s opening day, Rothman asked himself a single question: Who is my bad guy? He sought someone the jury would find difficult to believe and even harder to like. He sought someone with false bravado, with arrogance, with indifference. He didn’t want the jury to think about a sad little league going up against a powerful machine. No, he wanted the jury to see that the USFL, sympathy be damned, was its own Frankenstein. “The more I developed the strategy,” he said, “the more I wanted Donald Trump as my fall guy. I would call it Donald versus Goliath. I would make their scheme Donald’s plan, which it was. I would show that Donald Trump is not a little lightweight; he is one of the richest men in America . . . He was such a lousy witness for them, and a great one for us.”





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,907 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,166 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    I like this bit as well

    “Rothman characterized Trump as the worst kind of snake who was selling his colleagues down the river so he could effect a merger of a few rich teams.” It wasn’t Trump’s words, so much as his swagger and irritability. The USFL was the little league trying to be big, but Trump didn’t seem little. Or sympathetic. Or, for that matter, believable.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9 deeznuts420


    The capitol thing is hilariously blown out of context by most people, at worst it was political larpers walking into a building and pretending it was some kind of coup. At best it made a few retard politicians crap themselves (which is never a bad thing)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,166 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail




  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,291 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Every time he has been forced to give evidence in court he has made things immeasurably worse for himself.

    It's his "Big Lie" court cases in undiluted form.

    All his lies, obfuscation and bravura just crumble under questioning when he can't use his bully tactics to shout down opposition.

    That and the fact that he's just not very bright and can't manage to keep his story straight even for a short time under questioning and it all goes into the crapper for him.

    Summer Zervos and her legal team are going to have a field day with him in a few months.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,907 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    You either don't know what you're talking about (this point was argued and debunked here multiple times if you'd care to look) or you're bring argumentative for the sake of it.

    Either way, it's not worth engaging with you.

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,452 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy



    Another "new" account spouting the same old tired shïte. Will you guys ever grow up and get a life I wonder?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,021 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    Have you anything to debate here or just going to sling insults at posters?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,679 ✭✭✭francois




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,778 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    To answer the thread title question, it seems he’s said he’d beat Ron desantis in a republican primary for 2024. This to me will be the really interesting dance the GOP will have to do, because trump has hinted he’s running and the other GOP governors who follow trump are just waiting to kick for home if trump doesn’t run for whatever reason.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,021 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    I've reported three times already today, two backseat modding by the same poster and another personal attack, nothing resolved



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 36,745 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    The report system is apparently pretty f*cky since the Boards revamp.



  • Posts: 714 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    It seems the poster was passing comment on the 'insurrection'. Why did you not ask that question of the post to which the poster was responding which was far more insulting.

    Even the FBI agreed that there was no organized insurrection. Look up reuters world/us/exclusive-fbi-finds-scant-evidence-us-capitol-attack-was-coordinated-sources-2021-08-20/

    Here's the evidence. Now there's no more need to continue the conspiracy theory of some organized insurrection.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,907 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,761 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    I don't think that says what you think it does, the intent was there, those marching were just so stupid that it would be hard to call anything they did "coordinated".

    It was essentially

    1. trumpbaby crying about the election telling his supporters to go after the members of the house
    2. idiots march on the house in a cavalcade of dumbness
    3. ???????????????????????????????
    4. trump is forever president?


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